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Old Post 29 Nov 2003 10:25 pm REPLY Edit Profile Send PM Add Friend
Thought this might be a good idea, possibly get stickied? Anyway, I'd like this to be a thread about specific game fixes, as I've run into several things that have needed fixing over the last few days, and have had to use the Google sword to vanquish my demons. So... here's an example, explanation of the issue, format and all.

Issue: Anyway, the first is for zsnes. Having purchased a new Gamepad today (lovely price on the Belkin n45 at GPStore, and what a kind young man t()mbst()ne is... don't know if he knew who I was though ;p), I came home and started using it. While the tool "jscalibrator" worked fine and recognized all the controls, I found that zsnes bit the bullet when using the D-pad. After looking at forums.gentoo, I found the hack that fixes it - albeit, it's somewhat dirty.
Fix: You need to edit some of the source code, and change permissions on your joystick. At time of writing, the latest version of zsnes is 1.36. Untar the source into a directory (tar -zxvf zsnes-1.36.tar.gz -C /your/directory/here).
Next, proceed into "/your/directory/here/src/linux/", and open the file "sdllink.c".
If your editor supports searching, now's the time to use it. If not, find this via hand:

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case SDL_JOYAXISMOTION:
for (j = 0; j < 4; j++) 


Edit it to say

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case SDL_JOYAXISMOTION:
for (j = 0; j < 8; j++) 


This changes the number of axes recognized by zsnes - it doesn't have to be eight, for instance, 6 works fine for me (as I have 6 axes on the gamepad) but basically, make it something higher than 4. You may find that your source is set to 3 - it appears there is a copy of the source going round like that (while most reported an inital amount of 4 axes, some found theirs on 3). Next, compile the program -

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cd "/your/directory/here"
./configure
make


And give the generated binary a test - just use ./zsnes.
If it works, copy it to where your existing zsnes binary is (on Gentoo, /usr/bin), and change user to root (su root). chmod 644 /dev/js0 /dev/input/js0, and you're done. One of those joystick locations may not exist - on kernel 2.6 there is no /dev/input/js0, however, if there is /dev/js0 is just a link to it. AND... you're done!
Credits go to skh at forums.gentoo.org for this fix.

As soon as I get the xmame fix verified, I'll post that too, along with a Red Orchestra fix.

Cheers,
FRiO
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Old Post 29 Nov 2003 11:10 pm REPLY Edit Profile Send PM Add Friend
i have a microsoft precision 2 joystick, load joydev and it works flawlessly :P, no clabration needed or anything like that, are game pads treated like joysticks?, will ps2 controllers work u can make em plug into pcs with a bit of tweaking got a few of em around.

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Old Post 30 Nov 2003 11:47 am REPLY Edit Profile Send PM Add Friend
jscalibrator is a frontend for the libjsw library - so generally no matter what you have, if you're going to use a game based on libjsw you need to calibrate it :).

Yes, gamepads are treated exactly the same as joysticks - the only difference is that gamepads have multiple sets of axes (two for each analog stick, and two for the D-pad makes six total on mine)... so some programs need tweaking to recognize the greater amount of axes.

PS2 controllers will work perfetly fine :), though you'll need to do similar tweaking to some programs like I have to support the six axes.
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Big Grin Old Post 30 Nov 2003 12:19 pm REPLY Edit Profile Send PM Add Friend
Stuck!

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Old Post 4 Dec 2003 12:26 pm REPLY Edit Profile Send PM Add Friend
Thanks SeV :D, now to keep updating it all. Next up... Savage!

Issue: Whenever I play Savage, after a random amount of time the mouse starts spinning endlessly. Nothing short of quiting the program will solve it, what the hell can I do?
Solve: This stems from an as-yet unpatched use of a buggy technique in SDL for obtaining mouse information. The easiest way is to modify your Savage startup script - usually named "savage". For instance, mine is /opt/savagedemo/savage. By disabling the DGA and changing the SDL method, the issue is solved. Here's my modified script:

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#!/bin/sh
# Needed to make symlinks/shortcuts work.
# the binaries must run with correct working directory
cd /opt/savagedemo
SDL_VIDEO_X11_DGAMOUSE=0 SDL_MOUSE_RELATIVE=0 LD_LIBRARY_PATH=libs:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH ./savage.bin /opt/savagedemo
exit 0


(Credits go to trawling the Savage forums for these two fixes and nano (all you vi users can push off ;p) for combining them with the standard Savage script :D)

Issue: Whenever I try and quite Savage, the game hangs for up to 5 minutes before actually quitting, and I'm getting sick of swapping to a terminal to kill it. What can I do?
Solve: Obtain the newest version of [URL="http://www.fmod.org"]fmod - as at time of writing, 3.71. Next, untar it into a directory, and head into there - for the purpose of this guide, let's say you untarred it into /home/x.
Copy /home/x/fmodapi371linux/api/libfmod-3.71.so to /your/savage/here/libs/libfmod.so
And... you should be all done. Savage should close as normal from now on!

Issue: I have an ATi card, use their binary drivers, and the game looks like utter ass. What gives?
Solve: Well... as yet, there isn't one. You've been owned by ATi's crap drivers, BUT! Things are looking up. As at time of writing, they've just made a commitment to provide Catalyst-quality drivers under Linux, and have beefed up their Linux driver team. Fingers crossed guys :D!
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Old Post 27 Jan 2004 5:59 pm REPLY Edit Profile Send PM Add Friend
Where is the Quake3 installer?
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Old Post 27 Jan 2004 6:51 pm REPLY Edit Profile Send PM Add Friend
You'll need to download it. I think the latest Q3 version is 1.32b, and the Linux version of this patch is a .run file - it will install and patch Quake 3 :).
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Old Post 27 Jan 2004 10:46 pm REPLY Edit Profile Send PM Add Friend
yeah its under ftp://ftp.idsoftware.com/idstuff/quake3/linux/

theres also the source code for the Quake series here, if youre interested about how some of the best games work ;)
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Old Post 29 Jan 2004 11:41 pm REPLY Edit Profile Send PM Add Friend
Where can I get some free games?
Isn't Enemy Terrortory free or someit
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Old Post 30 Jan 2004 11:04 pm REPLY Edit Profile Send PM Add Friend
lots of sites have free games on them..depends what you want though
if you like D&D-style games, go to www.nethack.org, and download that. Its a real good game, if you get past the somewhat
graphically dated interface.

also www.linuxgames.com and www.happypenguin.org have lots of free games on them.
bear in mind that these games are just about all designed by non-professionals, so they arent all gonna be stellar quality or anything.
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Old Post 31 Jan 2004 6:44 pm REPLY Edit Profile Send PM Add Friend

Quote:
Originally posted by ShinKairyuu
yeah its under ftp://ftp.idsoftware.com/idstuff/quake3/linux/

theres also the source code for the Quake series here, if youre interested about how some of the best games work ;)



only the game code for making mods none of the engine code which will cost u 250,000$, ET source code out now to.

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Old Post 31 Jan 2004 11:01 pm REPLY Edit Profile Send PM Add Friend
yeah for quake 3 thats true.
I was talking about q1 and q2, which have been released under the GPL, though.
mind you, the .pk3 files are still copyrighted under their original licence though...
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Old Post 1 Feb 2004 12:35 pm REPLY Edit Profile Send PM Add Friend
I'm getting linux very soon, and would like to know what games actually run on linux? Do you have to buy a specific "Linux" version of games?

Mostly I'm interested in running RTS type games...does Total Annihilation work with linux?

Cheers:)

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Old Post 1 Feb 2004 12:49 pm REPLY Edit Profile Send PM Add Friend
being an old game it should probly work with acceptable performace on an emulator.

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Old Post 1 Feb 2004 12:53 pm REPLY Edit Profile Send PM Add Friend
or you could just get ut2003/4 and get this mod

http://ua.tauniverse.com/

its not ready yet but looks cool.

http://www.transgaming.com/gamepage.php?gameid=28

total annilation on winex, which we can hook you up with :)

Theres also a free alternative
http://boson.eu.org/

I havnt tried it yet dosnt look to bad, requires kde.
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Old Post 1 Feb 2004 5:22 pm REPLY Edit Profile Send PM Add Friend
Mint sounds good, are there any rts or any semi old games that run straight from linux? I'll try emulating it first tho:)

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Old Post 12 Feb 2004 9:20 pm REPLY Edit Profile Send PM Add Friend
Had a look at www.transgaming.com and you have to pay. Nah, I don't trust spending money overseas and I can just use windows to play games but thats not cool. Is there any other way I can play games like MP2 on linux?
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Old Post 12 Feb 2004 9:43 pm REPLY Edit Profile Send PM Add Friend
u mean u want teh winex?

the cvs is free iirc.

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Old Post 12 Feb 2004 10:30 pm REPLY Edit Profile Send PM Add Friend

Quote:
Originally posted by Twitching_Fool
u mean u want teh winex?

the cvs is free iirc.


wish I knew what u are meaning but ill research it
why arn't u on msn anymore twitch?
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Old Post 12 Feb 2004 10:43 pm REPLY Edit Profile Send PM Add Friend

Code

Package: cvs
Priority: optional
Section: devel
Installed-Size: 2564
Maintainer: Steve McIntyre <93sam@debian.org>
Architecture: i386
Version: 1.11.1p1debian-9
Replaces: cvs-doc (<< 1.11-2)
Provides: cvs-doc
Depends: libc6 (>= 2.2.4-4), zlib1g (>= 1:1.1.4), debconf
Recommends: netbase (>= 2.08-1), info-browser
Conflicts: cvs-doc
Filename: pool/updates/main/c/cvs/cvs_1.11.1p1debian-9_i386.deb
Size: 1085664
MD5sum: 6d7f9f5a8730595d9ad88560b7474816
Description: Concurrent Versions System
 CVS is a version control system, which allows you to keep old versions
 of files (usually source code), keep a log of who, when, and why
 changes occurred, etc., like RCS or SCCS.  Unlike the simpler systems,
 CVS does not just operate on one file at a time or one directory at
 a time, but operates on hierarchical collections of directories
 consisting of version controlled files.
 .
 CVS helps to manage releases and to control the concurrent editing of
 source files among multiple authors.  CVS allows triggers to
 enable/log/control various operations and works well over a wide area
 network.





hmmm, cos i hate msn and jabbers better.

furthermore, imo msn ppl arint of much use :/
"can u test this ftp for me?"
"watz a ftp? lolz"

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Old Post 12 Feb 2004 11:01 pm REPLY Edit Profile Send PM Add Friend
ah yes, Im one of those ppl, don't forget that u got me into linux O_o, can't seem to get away from it now and its now my defult boot.:p
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Old Post 16 Feb 2004 11:06 am REPLY Edit Profile Send PM Add Friend
most games will work on Wine with a bit of tweaking, like steam and the new CS/DOD etc

where Wine really kicks the bucket is in D3D support, which is almost nonexistant in it.
WineX however has nice DirectX support, and also support for CD protection software and Install Sheild,
making parts of it proprietary ..O_o
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Old Post 16 Feb 2004 4:29 pm REPLY Edit Profile Send PM Add Friend
Is there any shareware or demo versions of wine available?

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Old Post 16 Feb 2004 5:48 pm REPLY Edit Profile Send PM Add Friend
Wine is, uh, completely opensource and hence free :). Just grab the installer from winehq.com :).

Also, I think it's at http://www.transgaming.org/ that you can get a CVS version of Winex. It doesn't include Installshield stuff, but it works for emulating games.
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Old Post 16 Feb 2004 7:19 pm REPLY Edit Profile Send PM Add Friend
crikey, I've had a good look around and tried to find the cvs for Winex, and wine but cant manage to find them...

Can someone please give me a link?:)


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