nope, same slow speeds
getting like 30kb/s on megashares right now

russianguy192 wrote: not wanting to be rude or interrupt anyone, but can someone please answer my question above ^

Still throttled to hell over here.

how can i find out how much i have downloaded this motnh?

^BITES^ wrote: HTTP download, same would be true for drivers ... windows updates .. all sorts of shit .. so they can't REALLY do that without causing more issues, other than host limiting. Most if not all classifications work on a filtering system (especially cisco ones). EG (super simplistic.... dont use in a technical conversation!), todays theme will be nazi germany.

Meh Vulcan's system...

Any Downloads:
Snap of a rubber glove... (we'll see exactly what's in there)

Not if it's through a SSH tunnel

centaur wrote: Still throttled to hell over here.

how bad?

russianguy192 wrote: how bad?

<40kb/s. Usually more like 20-30kb/s.

Vulcan wrote: Meh Vulcan's system... Any Downloads: Snap of a rubber glove... (we'll see exactly what's in there)

Hey hey I put in the disclaimer saying it was a bollocks version :P totally the worlds worst watered down version but hopefully they get the jist :P

anyone getting abysmal speeds tonight? SS speedtest is 1.6 Mbit and 0.3 Mbit up. Usually it's 10/0.8 for me. Speedtest to Auck is 0.5 down and 0.1 up. im in dunedin... sigh

with worldnet speeds have increased...

at times..

have had up to 700kb/s on some cached download. Avg 60kb/s
torrents at 8-20kb/s up from 3kb/s avg 12kb/s
you tube still crap.
gaming is terrible.


1st hop on the tracert is at 70ms+ instead of 35-40.


Either getting immense packet loss or throttling, because everything's jumping around too, and getting major warping in BF2142.

Been doing more rqing than gaming.

i did a trace to stuff.co.nz and the first hop is 300ms

Code 1 2 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.2.1 2 303 ms 306 ms 312 ms 202.180.81.31 3 311 ms 313 ms 317 ms vlan94-cpcak3-e1.tranzpeer.net [202.180.82.82] 4 312 ms 304 ms 317 ms vlan7-cpcak3-s1.tranzpeer.net [202.180.81.49] 5 299 ms 297 ms * g1-0-0-108.akcr10.global-gateway.net.nz [202.50.36.225] 6 309 ms 304 ms 300 ms g0-1-0.tkcr3.global-gateway.net.nz [210.55.202.5] 7 332 ms 322 ms 314 ms 202.50.234.78 8 316 ms 319 ms * v11-2.fcore-mlx1.wlg.trademe.co.nz [202.21.128.5] 9 322 ms 310 ms 325 ms 202.21.128.102 10 <snip> trace complete

what is 202.180.81.31 anyone?

crusader142 wrote: with worldnet speeds have increased... at times.. have had up to 700kb/s on some cached download. Avg 60kb/s torrents at 8-20kb/s up from 3kb/s avg 12kb/s you tube still crap. gaming is terrible. 1st hop on the tracert is at 70ms+ instead of 35-40. Either getting immense packet loss or throttling, because everything's jumping around too, and getting major warping in BF2142. Been doing more rqing than gaming.

I thought you already made a switch????

Hawkz25 wrote: what is 202.180.81.31 anyone?

An IP address allocated to Callplus.

L@mer|2 wrote: Not if it's through a SSH tunnel

you'd be surprised what we can identify as far as 'encrypted' traffic goes

Vulcan wrote: you'd be surprised what we can identify as far as 'encrypted' traffic goes

Yurp ... people prolly need to stop clinging to this :P ... but I doubt it :P

russianguy192 wrote: I thought you already made a switch????

Not yet. Been flat out with other things to worry about rather than the broadband.

Waiting to see what telecom say about worldnets claim its the local exchanges fault.



EDIT

Just got this today:


> Hi
>
> All your emails have been received by technical support and our
> network team is working to resolve local congestion for the normal
> ADSL broadband service. As regards the location of 172.17.1.22, you
> can see it for yourself if you run 'whois 172.17.1.22' at a command
> prompt that it is located in USA. Please refer to my previous message.
>
> Regards


I tried to tell them that its impossible its a USA location because...
1) Its impossible to do 70ms from here ( Rural Canterbury ) to USA, especially on copper.
2) Its a private IP address. They might as well just say my modem-router is located in china...
3) Its the first location outside of the home LAN that is on the route..






This is the tracert I sent.




Tracert Output to Hypernia Australia Battlefield 2142 Server:

C:\Users\Homer>tracert 203.14.173.242

Tracing route to 203.14.173.242 over a maximum of 30 hops

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 172.16.0.1
2 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.254
3 90 ms 70 ms 71 ms 172.17.1.22 ( Does this look like a USA location anyone !!)
4 75 ms 75 ms 73 ms gi-0-0.akl-int-3.linktelecom.co.nz [202.169.192.
14]
5 147 ms 140 ms 141 ms ten-0-3-0-111.bdr02.akl02.akl.VOCUS.net.au [114.
31.203.82]
6 208 ms 195 ms 186 ms ten-0-1-0-62.bdr02.akl01.akl.VOCUS.net.au [114.3
1.202.42]
7 215 ms * 212 ms ip-28.192.31.114.VOCUS.net.au [114.31.192.28]
8 229 ms 222 ms 213 ms ge-0-3-6-124.bdr02.syd01.nsw.VOCUS.net.au [114.3
1.192.118]
9 235 ms * 205 ms as4802.bdr02.syd01.nsw.VOCUS.net.au [114.31.193.
238]
10 215 ms 223 ms 192 ms 203.215.20.111
11 213 ms 202 ms 215 ms te1-4.syd-mas-bdr1.iinet.net.au [203.215.20.95]

12 196 ms 201 ms 187 ms te1-2.syd-mas-bdr2.iinet.net.au [203.215.20.152]

13 215 ms 220 ms 220 ms 203.215.18.77
14 201 ms 201 ms 260 ms 203.14.173.242

Trace complete.








Tracert to ON3 Telstra Network ( NZ ):


C:\Users\Home>tracert 203.97.27.202

Tracing route to gfep4.clear.net.nz [203.97.27.202]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 172.16.0.1
2 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.254
3 72 ms 67 ms 70 ms 172.17.1.22
4 76 ms 73 ms 75 ms gi-0-50.akl-dom-2.linktelecom.co.nz [202.169.192.11]
5 77 ms 79 ms 84 ms g1-0-0-105.akcr10.global-gateway.net.nz [122.56.118.101]
6 82 ms 82 ms 82 ms g1-0-0-4.akpr1.global-gateway.net.nz [210.55.202.52]
7 69 ms 70 ms 71 ms ge-2-0-0-906.ie2.telstraclear.net [203.98.18.65]
8 77 ms 77 ms 76 ms front2-clix.clear.net.nz [203.167.243.213]
9 78 ms 85 ms 79 ms gfep4.clear.net.nz [203.97.27.202]

Trace complete.


EDIT 2: at a guess ild say 172.17.1.22 is their own connection / gateway.

crusader142 wrote: Not yet. Been flat out with other things to worry about rather than the broadband. Waiting to see what telecom say about worldnets claim its the local exchanges fault. EDIT Just got this today: > Hi > > All your emails have been received by technical support and our > network team is working to resolve local congestion for the normal > ADSL broadband service. As regards the location of 172.17.1.22, you > can see it for yourself if you run 'whois 172.17.1.22' at a command > prompt that it is located in USA. Please refer to my previous message. > > Regards I tried to tell them that its impossible its a USA location because... 1) Its impossible to do 70ms from here ( Rural Canterbury ) to USA, especially on copper. 2) Its a private IP address. They might as well just say my modem-router is located in china... 3) Its the first location outside of the home LAN that is on the route.. This is the tracert I sent. Tracert Output to Hypernia Australia Battlefield 2142 Server: C:\Users\Homer>tracert 203.14.173.242 Tracing route to 203.14.173.242 over a maximum of 30 hops 1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 172.16.0.1 2 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.254 3 90 ms 70 ms 71 ms 172.17.1.22 ( Does this look like a USA location anyone !!) 4 75 ms 75 ms 73 ms gi-0-0.akl-int-3.linktelecom.co.nz [202.169.192. 14] 5 147 ms 140 ms 141 ms ten-0-3-0-111.bdr02.akl02.akl.VOCUS.net.au [114. 31.203.82] 6 208 ms 195 ms 186 ms ten-0-1-0-62.bdr02.akl01.akl.VOCUS.net.au [114.3 1.202.42] 7 215 ms * 212 ms ip-28.192.31.114.VOCUS.net.au [114.31.192.28] 8 229 ms 222 ms 213 ms ge-0-3-6-124.bdr02.syd01.nsw.VOCUS.net.au [114.3 1.192.118] 9 235 ms * 205 ms as4802.bdr02.syd01.nsw.VOCUS.net.au [114.31.193. 238] 10 215 ms 223 ms 192 ms 203.215.20.111 11 213 ms 202 ms 215 ms te1-4.syd-mas-bdr1.iinet.net.au [203.215.20.95] 12 196 ms 201 ms 187 ms te1-2.syd-mas-bdr2.iinet.net.au [203.215.20.152] 13 215 ms 220 ms 220 ms 203.215.18.77 14 201 ms 201 ms 260 ms 203.14.173.242 Trace complete. Tracert to ON3 Telstra Network ( NZ ): C:\Users\Home>tracert 203.97.27.202 Tracing route to gfep4.clear.net.nz [203.97.27.202] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 172.16.0.1 2 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.254 3 72 ms 67 ms 70 ms 172.17.1.22 4 76 ms 73 ms 75 ms gi-0-50.akl-dom-2.linktelecom.co.nz [202.169.192.11] 5 77 ms 79 ms 84 ms g1-0-0-105.akcr10.global-gateway.net.nz [122.56.118.101] 6 82 ms 82 ms 82 ms g1-0-0-4.akpr1.global-gateway.net.nz [210.55.202.52] 7 69 ms 70 ms 71 ms ge-2-0-0-906.ie2.telstraclear.net [203.98.18.65] 8 77 ms 77 ms 76 ms front2-clix.clear.net.nz [203.167.243.213] 9 78 ms 85 ms 79 ms gfep4.clear.net.nz [203.97.27.202] Trace complete. EDIT 2: at a guess ild say 172.17.1.22 is their own connection / gateway.

Yep is a private ip address.

Class B: IP Range - 172.16.0.0 to 172.31.255.255

3 emails and the help desk is still trying to tell me im wrong and that 172.17.1.22 is in the USA and its not a private IP, and it is possible to do 70ms from rural copper Canterbury to USA..


I give up.

*EDIT: They are now telling me the latency issues is caused by adsl congestion because it has a lower bandwidth than ADSL2+.

Whilst I know that ADSL1 has less possible bandwidth than ADSL2+ , im unsure of it being more prone to congestion.
From what I have heard ADSL1 is supposed to be the more stable one out of the DSL family.


^ Can anyone clarify on that ?

From your traceroute above the latency doesn't come in until it hits their IP transit providers edge router bdr02.akl02.akl.VOCUS.net.au so it's not Telecom Wholesale's network that is causing increased latency on your ICMP ping packets. Vocus carry their traffic to international destinations.

Just change the 172.17.1.22 hop to something else like 202.169.192.1 they probably won't even realise.

lol

I should.


Will this have any effect do you think ?

Their throttling system rapes everything. - maybe the culprit anyway.

No idea what 202.169.192.1 is, just made it up.

Ping times on the ON3 traceroute look OK to me ?
Yes the one to Hypernia look higher than usual.

Telecom's ASAM etc./ADSL1 network does have less capacity than their ISAM/ADSL2+ network because it uses ATM links with less capacity back to the core. Therefore you may run into capacity issues sooner as there is less capacity per subscriber. But as before it doesn't look like that is causing the latency problem here.

should get 25-30 to Telstra & Telecom ( auck in general )

should get 58-62 to Aus.


and im not getting that.

EDIT: Well this is looking fail. Cant telnet into the router.. WAG160N

crusader142 wrote: should get 25-30 to Telstra & Telecom ( auck in general ) should get 58-62 to Aus. and im not getting that. EDIT: Well this is looking fail. Cant telnet into the router.. WAG160N

Tried to approach another ISP besides telecom?

THIS CUNNNNt IS LEECHING, ATLEAST I GIVE HIM MY UPLOAD ;< ALL I ASK IN RETURN THAT YOU SEED BAE


edit:turns out it was the cache lol

russianguy192 wrote: Tried to approach another ISP besides telecom?

?

Im with worldnet

I have been communicating with their helpdesk, and with telecom about the "local adsl problem" since they own the exchange.