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Forgotten
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Old Post 30 Aug 2010 7:58 am REPLY Edit Profile Send PM Add Friend
Where's the love Pheer. : <
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Old Post 30 Aug 2010 8:48 am REPLY Edit Profile Send PM Add Friend

Forgotten wrote:
Where's the love Pheer. : <


National shares .... perp perp .... yay for tvnz on air.....O_o
Plus he still has to post some images/times/proving it ;)
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Old Post 30 Aug 2010 10:28 am REPLY Edit Profile Send PM Add Friend
woot, it went up to 20kb/sec this morning >.<

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Old Post 30 Aug 2010 10:36 am REPLY Edit Profile Send PM Add Friend
bit of a off topic

Restrictive data caps were not being imposed because of the cost or availability of international bandwidth, he said. Instead, New Zealand internet providers were using data caps to segment the retail market and maximise their own revenues.


http://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/4...ip-model-around

dam them lol

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Old Post 30 Aug 2010 10:50 am REPLY Edit Profile Send PM Add Friend

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lol .. still maxxing my line atm, think ive found a new big time LOL


That's because you're still on Telecom you troll!

For everyone's reference, Ph33r has no idea how to beat the slingshot prioritisation apart from proxying traffic through nationally hosted boxes. He's also not yet a connected slingshot customer. :P

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Old Post 30 Aug 2010 10:53 am REPLY Edit Profile Send PM Add Friend
Willing to do any tests for everyone, connected yesterday, my net wasn't connecting because they forgot to turn authentication on my line(lol) just called them before they said sorry etc, good old man _b

ended up playing fallout3 for 12 hours -_- since i had no internet, and i accidentally deleted my whole steam folder, time to wait 5 years for it to re download lol. :\

you guys told me slingshot uses the recoil/xnet server LIES! ;D

edit:^Oh there it goes 1.4MB/S ;D
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Old Post 30 Aug 2010 10:59 am REPLY Edit Profile Send PM Add Friend
They have their own Steam content server but I think I read on the forums the other day that it was temporarily offline.

Someone tell me if that YouTube hosts file thing works lol, if it doesn't I'll remove it ;p

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Old Post 30 Aug 2010 11:25 am REPLY Edit Profile Send PM Add Friend

tehyitz wrote:
They have their own Steam content server but I think I read on the forums the other day that it was temporarily offline.

Someone tell me if that YouTube hosts file thing works lol, if it doesn't I'll remove it ;p



Hmm, seems to be working, have not done any speed test for difference though(loads quite fast)
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Old Post 30 Aug 2010 11:43 am REPLY Edit Profile Send PM Add Friend

tehyitz wrote:
They have their own Steam content server but I think I read on the forums the other day that it was temporarily offline.

Someone tell me if that YouTube hosts file thing works lol, if it doesn't I'll remove it ;p


I'm unsure if it makes much of a difference. Some videos won't load at all (esp. 720p ones) as they don't seem to be on the cache, and those that are only buffer slightly faster than the rate that they play at (struggle to get 100kBps from it)

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you guys told me slingshot uses the recoil/xnet server LIES! ;D


No one said that. o_O
Their own, yes, but not Xnet's.
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Old Post 30 Aug 2010 11:50 am REPLY Edit Profile Send PM Add Friend

saajiik wrote:
I'm unsure if it makes much of a difference. Some videos won't load at all (esp. 720p ones) as they don't seem to be on the cache, and those that are only buffer slightly faster than the rate that they play at (struggle to get 100kBps from it)

Hmm what if you change the IPs to 119.224.143.70 (one of their Oversi IP's for media caching), does it just stop working together or does it work.

Either their DPI is nuking it or Orcon's Google Cache's aren't up to it in terms of origin connectivity back to Google, unlike Telecom's <3

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Old Post 30 Aug 2010 12:06 pm REPLY Edit Profile Send PM Add Friend
With the Orcon one, when I tried switching to 720p on the four videos I tried they just didn't seem to buffer at all. Tried the refresh trick and changing back to 720p, nothing. Came back in about 30s, still nothing.

The oversi IP doesn't do anything.
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Old Post 30 Aug 2010 12:08 pm REPLY Edit Profile Send PM Add Friend
Oh OK, yeah adding these hosts file entries would be the equivalent to refreshing anyway.

Too bad you can't leech off Telecom's Google servers anymore (requests are blocked + routed internationally for those external of Telecom Broadband) ;p Google should deploy their own public ones at the APE like they do in Sydney... if only NZ had enough traffic.

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Old Post 30 Aug 2010 12:16 pm REPLY Edit Profile Send PM Add Friend
If I do that refresh thing, I'll sometimes get the video from the oversi cache the second time, however that only seems to work for the default quality (lowest) for which I can usually get the Orcon cache or the int'l ones are fast enough anyway. >_<
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Old Post 30 Aug 2010 12:24 pm REPLY Edit Profile Send PM Add Friend
Hah so the Oversi box is configured to force the low quality clip? Nice lol.

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Old Post 30 Aug 2010 12:38 pm REPLY Edit Profile Send PM Add Friend
I have no idea, it could simply be that youtube has recorded that the average speed for SS customers is too poor to support higher
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Old Post 30 Aug 2010 12:42 pm REPLY Edit Profile Send PM Add Friend
If with those hosts file entries, you still get times when it loads from an Oversi IP 119.224.143.x then it's the Oversi box that responds to the request and ignores any quality requests.

Basically how I think it works is that when you request a YouTube video (i.e. http://v1.lscache1.c.youtube.com/videoplayback ) it intercepts the HTTP and adds an HTTP Redirect to http://119.224.143.x/... which serves the video in a non-transparent manner.

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Old Post 30 Aug 2010 12:59 pm REPLY Edit Profile Send PM Add Friend
So for those on the plan.....

What are the speeds likes? (how about at peak times?)

Pings?
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Old Post 30 Aug 2010 12:59 pm REPLY Edit Profile Send PM Add Friend
Definitely does something like that, and it does appear that it won't cache 720p (or does awfully slowly)
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Old Post 30 Aug 2010 1:01 pm REPLY Edit Profile Send PM Add Friend

Therk wrote:
What are the speeds likes? (how about at peak times?)


20kBps for regular HTTP downloads pretty much 24/7 from the three servers I use regularly, maybe 30kBps from some others most of the day.

Pings seem low, but I get the occasional lag spike when playing on Aussie servers (not sure about US ones since I haven't tried any)
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Old Post 30 Aug 2010 2:17 pm REPLY Edit Profile Send PM Add Friend

Therk wrote:
So for those on the plan.....

What are the speeds likes? (how about at peak times?)

Pings?



not bad but not good either oversea ftp for me is constant 70K which will drop overtime (pretty sure)
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Old Post 30 Aug 2010 2:22 pm REPLY Edit Profile Send PM Add Friend

Therk wrote:
Pings?



Gimmie some ips

Quote:

Gamearena(australia) cs 1.6
Tracing route to 144.140.154.148 over a maximum of 30 hops

1 2 ms 2 ms 1 ms 10.1.1.1
2 7 ms 8 ms * 202.180.81.31
3 8 ms 8 ms * vlan94-cpcak3-e1.tranzpeer.net [202.180.82.82]
4 8 ms 8 ms * vlan7-cpcak3-s1.tranzpeer.net [202.180.81.49]
5 8 ms 8 ms * Gi10-0-0-405.gw1.akl1.asianetcom.net [203.192.167.29]
6 40 ms 41 ms * ge-1-1-0-0.gw4.akl1.asianetcom.net [202.147.55.226]
7 32 ms 32 ms * po2-0.cr4.syd1.asianetcom.net [202.147.55.254]
8 33 ms 32 ms * gi2-1.gw2.syd1.asianetcom.net [202.147.40.202]
9 33 ms 32 ms * GigabitEthernet2-13.pit1.Sydney.telstra.net [139.130.55.25]
10 44 ms 41 ms * TenGigE0-1-0-2.ken-core4.Sydney.telstra.net [203.50.20.1]
11 46 ms 45 ms * Bundle-Pos3.win-core1.Melbourne.telstra.net [203.50.11.13]
12 45 ms 45 ms * TenGigabitEthernet8-1.exi2.Melbourne.telstra.net[203.50.80.154]
13 46 ms 45 ms * telstr478.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.43.102]
14 46 ms 48 ms * 144.140.178.5
15 46 ms 45 ms * 144.140.154.148
16 * * * Request timed out.
17 47 ms 47 ms * 144.140.154.148
18 48 ms 48 ms 54 ms 144.140.154.148

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liquidpain
Old Post 30 Aug 2010 2:49 pm REPLY Edit Profile Send PM Add Friend
so is it worth moving onto this plan?

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saajiik
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Old Post 30 Aug 2010 2:51 pm REPLY Edit Profile Send PM Add Friend
Probably not unless you simply do a lot of browsing or use lots of national traffic.
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Old Post 30 Aug 2010 2:59 pm REPLY Edit Profile Send PM Add Friend

saajiik wrote:
Probably not unless you simply do a lot of browsing or use lots of national traffic.



whats youtube like? we have like 3 laptops and 2 gaming pc and we chew through data. we do a lot of gaming too

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saajiik
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Old Post 30 Aug 2010 3:32 pm REPLY Edit Profile Send PM Add Friend
Pretty much unwatchable on anything but the lowest setting.
Even then, if a video is not on the cache, it is likely to need to pause to buffer a couple of times.

So, like I said before, if most of your traffic is browsing (that's browsing, not HTTP downloading) and gaming on NZ (and possibly Aussie for FPS) servers, it'll be good. Otherwise, I'd be wary unless you don't mind 20-30kBps speeds.
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