Wont be pre-ordering, they'll be lucky if I order at all. What I have in my head of what BF5 should be / could be would have me immediately placing a pre-order, what they'll deliver would be immediate refund.
Better to not care, and ignore everything associated with it, until the game is released and some weeks have passed.
Anyone who gets burned with this release will get little more than a shrug when they complain.
might be keen if they get rid of dlc stuff, that ruins it for me
BF has almost always had some form of paid addon available, most of which has been decent value imo. That being said the BF4 DLC was spaced so far apart I had stopped playing it casually before the final two released.
I might preorder from a decent retailer like amazon if there's bonuses/beta access, can always cancel before release.