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    Solid CPU/MOBO/RAM combo?

    Hey guys, been out the game for a while and my 6year old PC is finally on its way out I'll need some guidance for motherboard decisions.

    I'm looking to get an i5 6600k and 16gb DDR4 but I'm not sure which Motherboard to go for, I'm an ASUS fanboy so that's a start.

    Looking at a few things, I've seen the following names float around.

    "H170"
    "Z170"
    "MAXIMUS"
    "PRIME"
    "STRIX"
    "Sabertooth"
    "X99 chip" <-- what?

    I have no idea what any of this means... 6 years ago Motherboards were simple without all this gimicky stuff.

    I just want a solid MOBO that will last me a while and will be primarily used for gaming. I'll be running a 1070GTX with 1 SSD and 1 HDD, 1 PCI slot for my sound card and preferably multiple USB slots at the back.

    Throw me some recommendations, would be nice to get one with a decent BIOS that lets me OC in the future, I've heard some of the newer MOBO's are a pain in the ass to OC and don't even allow it sometimes?

    cheers.

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    #2
    A 6600k and a z170 board (Asus ranger or Hero are decent)will do you well. Looks like a lot of shops are clearing space for the release of Kaby Lake though

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    #3
    Honestly, even Asus Pro Gaming is fine, if you're not into their flashy ROG lineup. Or Sabertooth.

    Also, if you're future proofing, may as well go for i7

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    #4
    As long as you get a Z mobo and a K CPU, overclocking is automated, you can manually push for extra, but it's really all simplified to the extreme.

    Keep in mind Skylake doesn't come with a CPU cooler, so asd extra 80ish dula for a descent aftermarket

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    #5
    Had a quick look on pricespy, not cheap at all considering age, may as well wait for the new cpu/mobos which are coming soon, unless some retailer offers a great deal.

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    Wait for zen

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    #7
    What's your current CPU? As far as I know, second gen Intel is still solid for gaming.

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    ludez wrote:
    Wait for zen
    When is this coming out and what price we looking at?

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    Intel has only incrementally improved since Sandy Bridge in the desktop space. If you have an i5-2500k or later then you won't see a significant gain.

    All gains are in the mobile and Xeon space and they now have close to desktop performance sipping power for the former, and a bajillionty cores in the latter.

    Hopefully Zen will push Intel to do another Sandy like jump, I'm hoping on eight core i5s.

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    I wouldn't agree with that statement really. You compare 6600k to 2500k and there is a big difference

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    Not to mention the new platfom features auch as ddr4, usb 3.1, m. 2 etc

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    Here's a decent comparison.

    http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/di...-core-i5-2500k

    I don't see the 6600 as being a meaningful enough improvement for a full upgrade that an i7-3770k (same socket, drop in cheap replacement) couldn't achieve, bearing in mind they used a Titan X creating more of a bottleneck than the average GPU (and i5 buyer).

    DDR4 I see as incremental, it doesn't have a significant performance effect and what USB 3.1 devices do you own (that 3.0 couldn't match)?

    M.2 only makes a difference if it's PCI-E, else it's the same SATA interface. And it's a pure throughput change, I have an M.2 adapted 950(OEM) drive in my 3770S machine and I can't tell the difference between it and my 512GB 840 Pro OEM 2.5"

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    #13
    Just to verify I do actually have these parts.

    Attachment 215706

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820147366
    http://www.os-store.com/samsung-ssd-...ve-laptop.html

    I see no meaningful difference in actual usage between the SSDs, aside from big numbers when I benchmark the PCI-E drive. After SATA 3.0 bandwidth values IOPS are far more important, and SATA 3.0 devices can be configured for IOPS. Samsung are great examples of this.

    Has USB 3.0 (and I actually only have like two actual USB 3 things, my Type-C phone and one of like 7 flash drives)

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    suntoucher wrote:
    Here's a decent comparison.

    http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/di...-core-i5-2500k

    I don't see the 6600 as being a meaningful enough improvement for a full upgrade that an i7-3770k (same socket) couldn't achieve, bearing in mind they used a Titan X creating more of a bottleneck than the average GPU (and i5 buyer).

    DDR4 I see as incremental, it doesn't have a significant performance effect and what USB 3.1 devices do you own (that 3.0 couldn't match)?

    M.2 only makes a difference if it's PCI-E, else it's the same SATA interface. And it's a pure throughput change, I have an M.2 adapted 950(OEM) drive in my 3770S machine and I can't tell the difference between it and my 512GB 840 Pro OEM 2.5"
    I upgraded to a 6600k Skylake Z170 platform from a 2500k with a GTX970 and absolutely didn't notice any difference for the games I play. Bit of a downer when I made the switch but all smiles again once the 970 was replaced with a 1080.

    http://www.hardwareunboxed.com/every...f-i5-goodness/

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    When I went from 2500k at 4.5 to 4690k at 4.5 at the same ram speeds i noticed a significant bump in fps. Especially in CPU bound games, Arma 3 etc

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    ludez wrote:
    When I went from 2500k at 4.5 to 4690k at 4.5 at the same ram speeds i noticed a significant bump in fps. Especially in CPU bound games, Arma 3 etc
    Just saw the Arma benchmarks in the link and you're right huge difference in FPS shown there between the different CPU's.

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    I see Intel get criticized quite a bit about being stagnant and for the most part it is justified.

    You'd be an enthusiast/tinkerer to upgrade from Haswell/devils canyon to skylake or kaby lake, the extra cost is completely silly price to performance wise.

    If you want something to last you a few years just grab skylake now

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    #18
    What games are you playing. Id wait to see what Zen has to offer. It might even mean a price drop for intel.

    Also I am a bit dissapointed with my i5. My mate just went from an i5 to an i7 (both skylake) and man he has a lot less input lag in FPS games.

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    #19
    Thanks guys, I've noted down your recommendations and will take a look at my options

    Intel releasing new CPU's soon and Nvidia has a countdown on their website so maybe I'll hold off for a bit?

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    I'm eyeing up the following combo

    Intel KabyLake Core i5-7600K (With some cheap water cooling, Hydro H50 or something.)
    +
    Asus Maximus IX Hero

    Will set me back around 800ish - anyone know if that mobo is any good? will read some reviews after work... it's the cheaper of the z270 series from what I can see.

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    The Asus PRIME are the cheaper ones, probably good enough for what you need too.

    http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/comp...p?partid=28233

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    pyronical wrote:
    The Asus PRIME are the cheaper ones, probably good enough for what you need too.

    http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/comp...p?partid=28233
    What's the major difference between the prime and the maximus series? from what I can see they target maximus series for gamers, is there any benefit to this or just tacky lights?

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    PRIME is also a gamer board.

    Best to do the comparison yourself, there are a number of differences - most you probably won't care about.

    https://www.asus.com/microsite/best-...-motherboards/

    Other than ROG exclusive features which are a bit gimmicky... it looks like its mostly just better audio and two 16x slots for SLI (as opposed to two 8x) - which doesnt matter if youre only running 1 card.

    ROG exclusive features:
    ROG RAMCache II
    ROG CPU-Z
    ROG CloneDrive
    MemOK! Button
    Overwolf
    ReTry Button
    Safe Boot Button
    Start Button
    Reset Button
    LN2 Mode
    GameFirst IV
    ROG Aura
    - Aura Lighting Control
    - Aura RGB Strip Headers
    Extreme Engine Digi+ :
    - MicroFine Alloy Chokes
    - NexFET™ Power Block MOSFET
    - 10K Black Metallic Capacitors
    Mem TweakIt
    KeyBot II
    - One-click Overclocking
    - X.M.P.
    - DirectKey
    - ClrCMOS
    - Power On
    UEFI BIOS features :
    - O.C. Profile
    - Tweakers´ Paradise
    - ROG SSD Secure Erase
    - Graphic Card Information Preview
    ROG RAMDisk
    Loadline Calibration
    Last edited by pyronical; 10th January 2017 at 11:58 am.

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    #24
    Might grab this, can't see anything wrong with it? not looking for extreme OCing or other gimicky features.

    http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/comp...p?partid=28232

    gonna chuck in the kaby lake i5 7600k and should be sorted eh? can you see anything wrong with this mobo? you seem to know more about this than me.

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    Rekuja wrote:
    Might grab this, can't see anything wrong with it? not looking for extreme OCing or other gimicky features.

    http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/comp...p?partid=28232

    gonna chuck in the kaby lake i5 7600k and should be sorted eh? can you see anything wrong with this mobo? you seem to know more about this than me.
    Note how it's got H in its name, but you want unlocked K processor, so you want a motherboard with a Z in its name to match.

    Also, that motherboard supports RAM only up to 2400mhz, which is not end of the world, but leaves limited options.

    In your situation, I would recommend to contact Computer Lounge staff and get them to pair you a nice combo with a special GP discount.

    Rule of thumb, K CPU goes with Z Mobo, non K CPU goes with H Mobo.

    With Ram you want low latency with high hertz rate.