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    #51
    When I was leaving school I looked a lot at Media Design School, Natcol, Freelance Animation School, South Seas and Auckland Uni (or more specifically Bachelor of Visual Arts at MIT). Glanced over the D&A in Welly but I wanted to stay local.

    I was considering pretty much everything and leaning towards the AU course but then at the open day one of the tutors said something along the lines of "Most of our graduates don't do anything art related after the course." So I was like heeeell no!

    After a whole bunch of debating I'm now in my 2nd year at Freelance (went 3D cause that's what I'm keen on yo).

    I was seriously looking at switching to MDS at the end of last year but I heard some really horrible stuff about the 3D Animation course (like they'll teach you *how* to use the programs rather than the principles of animation etc, you shared the computers with other students so there was no guarantee you could get on to the computers when you needed to, only 4 hours of class time a day and yer expected to do everything else in your own time away from tutors etc) and after talking to a guest speaker this year (he said he got a lot of reels and even tho he eventually chose a student from MDS, a lot of their reels lacked talent) I'm pretty glad I stayed on at Freelance. I have a friend who did Graphic Design at MDS and got hooked up with a job right off the bat which is good tho, and another who did Interactive Gaming - said he really enjoyed it although from what I gather it's more programming based).

    From what I understand, MDS entry is based on age and portfolio. I don't know how they judge the folios tho, so I dont know how hardcore you have to be to get in. Some courses you have to be over 18 or 19 for. But, *aaaaall* of that depends on what course you want to do.

    Freelance is based on age and portfolio - couple guys in my year last year dropped out of school after 5th form and they were doing pretty well (one guy dropped out half way thru the year cause he was a bum, smelt like pee and didn't do his class work). One thing you don't want to do is fall behind in work. As long as you're commited to the course, really want to be there and keep up to date, you'll do fine.

    Freelance is primo. Last year was a bit of a drag at times but in hindsight you can see why you did what you did. Here, they don't just train you to animate like for example, MDS, but they teach you how to be an animator - you learn the principles of animation (squash and stretch, weighting etc), skills for scripting/storyboards/concept design, work on maquettes, *and* all the technical programmy stuff. There's a lot of industry ties too (I just got hooked up with some work on a short film project which I'm really thrilled about), you get guest speakers coming in from different areas of the animation industry too - 3D and 2D. Last year I'm pretty sure some 3rd year 2D students did some work on Bro Town doing inbetweening and cleanups which is really awesome for work exp and your CV.

    So if you have any interest in animation, Freelance is the way to go.

    Friend did Multimedia at Natcol and said it was good - really broad so a bit of 3D, some graphic design, web design etc.

    Um wow, I ramble... best thing I can recommend is emailing MDS and asking outright. Another good thing is that MDS and Freelance both do short courses during school holidays so find out when and maybe sign up - give you an idea of the courses and the schools.

    I hope someplace in that, you guys find some helpful information!

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    #52
    I'm about to apply for the July intake for the Multimedia course at Natcoll in Christchurch, just wondering how hard it is to get in. I'm quite confident with my portfolio that I'll be handing in, covers aspects such as work in Web Design, Corel Draw and Photoshop.

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    #53
    Just wondering, what level of graphics design is required to be accepted to MDS?

    Any examples of portfolios which have been submitted?

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    #54
    hey yehh same i'm in year 13 and me and my teacher were looking at what i needed to get in, it's a bit weird it kinda does say what you really need!!!

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    #55
    I'm really thinking about applying at Massey for next year.

    One thing I've heard a lot from the forums on conceptart.org is that the length of the course is not as essential as people think. There are people in the world that study art at the age of 45 and 55 that still get into the industry with decent work.

    The thing you should be sure of is if you're going into the industry and that you ENJOY making that kind of work. If you're doing it just for the money, it'll be tough. Very tough. If you simply enjoy doing art or designing things, and hope to make money from it then all the best to you, if you do that and find things don't work out then chances are you'll still be happy with going for it.

    But don't go into conceptual design or modeling if you dislike doing it... might sound stupid to suggest such a thing, but there are people who somehow don't realize they're not loving what they do.

    Eh, cards are on the table now so I may as well ask about opinions on conceptual design and 3D modeling at Massey. Just another note that I'm 20 years old and about to go into a 4 year course. And am not worried. :P Cheers.

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    #56
    I'm at Massey in wellington doing the BDes. It's pretty easy to get in, I went in from Yr 13, and it was mainly my Yr 12 design work aswell, mainly because the entry is early.

    The first year is super general, everyone does the same thing pretty much. Which means Creative Studio 1 & 2, which is basically fine arts and will take up most your time. Then Cultural ID, which is studying Moari art. Plus another theory paper and only two papers which are close to your field.

    The second year is where you start the real stuff. So looking forward to that.

    Quite a few have dropped out, or changed Uni's/Courses due to Creative Studio. Its that dumb.

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    #57
    Does anyone have any idea what the Lifeway 3D animation course is like? Was thinking about applying for next year since it looks pretty good, but I haven't seen anyone talking about it online.

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    #58
    Natcol and MDS are for those that just want to learn how to do it using the tech available, if you have the motivation set a year aside and teach yourself. Research and tuts first half of the year finished project second half would work a treat and save yourself a student loan! ~ that motivation is sometimes worth paying for tho

    Massey & AU will get you that degree and set you up with a HUGE amount of other skills that you don't become aware of until you are out the other side and there are all those extra papers you can pick up on the side that just plain interest you, don't limit yourself to these silly computer thingys~they have a mean t-shirt printing paper ~ and yes it goes towards your degree ! I'm not quite there yet as iv had a few years off, going back next year to major in animation @ Massey!

    Arr Pirate - the first year is only dumb when your doing it, i hated it too! hahah but once your through and you look back and what they were teaching it makes so much more sense helps open the mind to concepts you would never have dreamed of if you had gone straight to a one year course and busted out a simple animation with no change to your mindset.

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    #59
    Lifeway ~ that the one out in snells beach yea?

    Haven't heard much about it even tho its 10 mins drive from my folks home think its expensive? and believe it to be on the same lines as Natcol and MDS ^ as iv said above

    though with any course its all about making friends / contacts so that when you are working in the field you have people to get you outa those holes you create for yourself xD

    Iv had 2 friends go through MDS and both are now working for weta one in mocap cleanup~ and one in pre vis animation ~

    Lots of friends through massey ~ 2 at weta doing concept design! many others out there freelancing and doing well at it!

    http://www.timeforsmoko.com./

    peace~

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    #60
    Just got into the Graphic Design course at MDS and from the sounds of it im in for a tough year :P should be good fun.

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    #61
    hi, just wondering if there are any current auckland uni students doing a BFA????????????????? If so, is this course worth doing if you want to get into graphic design?
    Also do you get to major or specialise into an area of your choice in 2nd 3rd and 4th years?

    Elam was a last minute decision..so dont know what im getting myself into :S
    i also accepted my application for unitec graphic design (at the price of 100bux agrhh) so i dont know which is best.

    any info will be much apreciated! :]

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    #62
    Pork Pie wrote:
    <SNIP>
    Figured I should say that after 3 years at Freelance I feel well and truly shafted. The last year was a farce - tutors were generally clueless and the course was crap. From what I've seen, Lifeway has a brilliant course and I was speaking to a guy from there and his portfolio was really neat. Sounds like a well rounded course - animation, concept work, storyboarding, modeling etc


    A mate did GD at Unitec a few years back but said the course was rubbish. They did have a good life drawing tutor or something but overall the course was just meh. I have another friend at Elam who's quite enjoying it but she's really into her fine arts so I dunno, depends what you like I guess. I hear the Graphic Design course at AUT is great, have a few mates there that love it for that more modern art mindspace.

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    #63
    Pork Pie wrote:
    Figured I should say that after 3 years at Freelance I feel well and truly shafted. The last year was a farce - tutors were generally clueless and the course was crap. From what I've seen, Lifeway has a brilliant course and I was speaking to a guy from there and his portfolio was really neat. Sounds like a well rounded course - animation, concept work, storyboarding, modeling etc


    A mate did GD at Unitec a few years back but said the course was rubbish. They did have a good life drawing tutor or something but overall the course was just meh. I have another friend at Elam who's quite enjoying it but she's really into her fine arts so I dunno, depends what you like I guess. I hear the Graphic Design course at AUT is great, have a few mates there that love it for that more modern art mindspace.
    I'm guessing you were the 2008 diploma students with the group projects?, I heard a few things, doh!. I'm from the 2007 diploma bunch.

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    #64
    You know you, Tsai! Pssh, pretty sure everyone does

    Heard you guys got mucked around a bit, think this past year was worse but I would say that, wouldn't I? Will be interesting to hear what they say about this year, see if any of our "constructive criticism" gets taken aboard.

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    #65
    Pork Pie wrote:
    You know you, Tsai! Pssh, pretty sure everyone does

    Heard you guys got mucked around a bit, think this past year was worse but I would say that, wouldn't I? Will be interesting to hear what they say about this year, see if any of our "constructive criticism" gets taken aboard.
    Our schedule did move around but only a bit, hopefully they'll get more tutors for the 3rd year to speed up the feedback/marking process There's now 2 diplomas you can get at FAS, 1st diploma you get after 2 years (level 6 - Applied Animation) and the 2nd diploma after 3 years (level 7 - Character Animation). I think this only applies to new students

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    #66
    Has anybody here done the Canterbury School of Fine Arts? I got accepted on a portfolio entry and am beginning FINT103 this year. What was it like? (I already have a good impression of the 2nd->4th years, but I have no clue what to expect with the first!)

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    #67
    Hear they're getting different tutors, rather than more. Our CG tutor's job was being advertised on Seek the day after we finished school!

    Tsai wrote:
    I think this only applies to new students
    Ah well, everything I've heard says your pieces of paper don't mean shite, it's the skills you have! Just gotta work on getting them seen is all.

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    #68
    I do digital design at AUT. It's great fun and a degree not diploma ^_^

    Can go into things like motion graphics, interactive design, animation (mainly 3d, maya etc), visual effects, visualisation, etc. One thing they don't focus on is web design.

    Oh and theres also honors and masters in it.

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    #69
    So many different opinions on the range of courses out there, I'm getting more reluctant to lay down several thousand bucks for one

    I've seen the work of people that have completed Natcoll graphic design and it didn't really impress me. Imo design is something that comes naturally and you can't be taught how to do it (the courses seem useful for learning the software but not much more?).

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    #70
    Well I heard from a few people that for design at a university level AUT was the place to go, and thats when I found about their digital design program and I was sold. My friend came from MDS after doing a 2 year diploma and he said that apparently it's just not enough to get a good job.

    My recommendation for you would be to go to AUT for graphic design. The diploma places tend to give you some of the skills but none of the theory or knowledge behind the design.

    EDIT:
    Also yeah design is up to you and whatever comes naturally to you... but some places where you go to study will give you a much better foundation than most

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    #71
    I'm looking at the bachelor of design at CPIT here in Christchurch, it's a three year course. Anyone got feedback on that? I'm trying to find out how much it costs but the damn people won't tell me

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    #72
    Hay, if you guys are looking for a degree in animation and want to save yourself a bit of money there is a degree and diploma option in animation at the Southern Institute of Technology in Invercargill and they have zero fees. In the first and second years you use Maya, Photoshop, Combustion, After Effects, Flash, ProTools and Final Cut and in the 3rd year they learn Mudbox, Realflow, syflex and Massive (very cool).

    Here are the links for the Bachelor of Digital Media (Animation is one of the majors)

    http://www.sit.ac.nz/Programmes/Inve...l_Media_ST4992

    Diploma in Animation:

    http://www.sit.ac.nz/Programmes/Inve...imation_ST5233


    and a wee promo for the Diploma

    http://sitondemand.sit.ac.nz/tv/epis...Animation.aspx

    Cheers

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    #73
    havnt been in here for a long time! good to see this thread is still cranking away.

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    #74
    Has anyone taken Creative Technologies at AUT? Degree looks interesting, only 40 applicants are enrolled each year so entry standards are high.

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    #75
    Just got accepted to Lifeway 3D Animation... Starts February 2nd! Will let you know how it goes, but in case I forget and you've stumbled upon this at some point in the future (cue Twilight Zone music) send me a PM.