The climate change debate and potential solutions thread

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    By 2050 many cities will have a very different climate and weather

    Actual study link

    According to the map Auckland will resemble Sydney by 2050, with Wellington resembling Auckland. In the northern hemisphere many cities will resemble those ~1000km south of them today, e.g. London will be like Barcelona.

    It should be noted that this is all assuming RCP4.5 which is considered by the authors to be optimistic and that these conditions are likely to occur even with substantial mitigation.

    To generate the data, we chose Representative Common Pathway 4.5 (RCP 4.5) scenario from the Coupled Model Intercomparison Project Phase 5 (CMIP5) as the input. It is a stabilization scenario, meaning that it accounts for a stabilization of radiative forcing before 2100, anticipating the development of new technologies and strategies for reducing greenhouse gas emissions [23]. By using this optimistic climate change scenario, we represent conservative changes in climate conditions that are likely to occur even if substantial climate change mitigation occurs.

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    I think our cities will be influenced a lot more by our Tasman sea, so the impacts may not be as severe as like Sydney which has the desert winds from the west, while we have the sea breezes from the Tasman sea. But I agree, it will be somewhat warmer.

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    KiwiTT wrote:
    I think our cities will be influenced a lot more by our Tasman sea, so the impacts may not be as severe as like Sydney which has the desert winds from the west, while we have the sea breezes from the Tasman sea. But I agree, it will be somewhat warmer.
    According to the map, Sydney won't warm as much as Auckland. But both are on the lower end. The northern hemisphere has it far worse. Especially the Mediterranean.

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    forget this science mumbo jumbo, this guy has cracked global warming

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    From Hell on Earth to Hell in Earth

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    One of the things I have observed is that many view actions to stop Climate change as some kind of socialist / left-wing conspiracy to get money out of people. What gives this view some credence is the fact that the so-called NZ Green Party (which I do support btw), has very strong socialist ideas. So support for actions to mitigate Climate Change is seen as supporting a Left-Wing agenda, which limits any meaningful results.

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    KiwiTT wrote:
    One of the things I have observed is that many view actions to stop Climate change as some kind of socialist / left-wing conspiracy to get money out of people. What gives this view some credence is the fact that the so-called NZ Green Party (which I do support btw), has very strong socialist ideas. So support for actions to mitigate Climate Change is seen as supporting a Left-Wing agenda, which limits any meaningful results.
    Very few organizations/people/governments are actually trying to stop climate change, most are looking at how to exploit for more money.

    Global collapse within 10 years imo. The weather is already becoming erratic and more powerful with India and the US to collapse first.

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    CODChimera wrote:
    Very few organizations/people/governments are actually trying to stop climate change, most are looking at how to exploit for more money.

    Global collapse within 10 years imo. The weather is already becoming erratic and more powerful with India and the US to collapse first.
    One of india's biggest cities came within a day of running out of water a couple of weeks ago. Luckily for them the long delayed rainy season saved their asses but that'll only last so long.

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    CODChimera wrote:
    Global collapse within 10 years imo. The weather is already becoming erratic and more powerful with India and the US to collapse first.
    I hope you are wrong.

    Kinda like a resource/climate brinkmanship,

    If there are wars for resources (like food, water, habitable land) in the not too distant future due to ever increasing dwindling of such resources due to climate change, then opposing nations will need to have all their production capability to win such wars.

    I.E, They will need to continue burning coal and all the bad stuff for environment to maintain their military and civilization in the anticipation of food/water/land wars, but in doing so brings such wars closer to our doorstep.

    Polluting in anticipation of wars due to pollution.