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    BURN_BABY wrote:
    I thought G-Sync had to have a special module in the monitor to work? Or is this the 'Freesync monitor + Nvidia graphics card' implementation?
    There are now three versions of ďG-SyncĒ

    1. Gsync using a hardware device thatís built into the monitor (only works via DisplayPort) and requires an Nvidia graphics card.

    2. Gsync using AMDs Freesync software - the screen and graphics driver must be compatible as this is a software solution (works over DisplayPort and HDMI)

    3. Gsync using HDMI Forumís Variable Refresh Rate standard - the screen and graphics driver must be compatible as this is a software solution (works over HDMI)

    Nvidia has chosen to use Option 3 to bring Gsync to TVs. I think the main reason they have chosen option 3 is because itís a HDMI 2.1 standard feature which means easy future support across a range of products and wide support from TV manufacturers.

    Option 2 which is AMDs Freesync will probably die out from TVs now. Only Samsung supports it while game consoles, Nvidia gpus and probably all other TV makers use Option 3. And while AMD gpus do not support Option 3, AMD has said they will support it by a driver update at some point (probably sooner rather than later now that Nvidia has beat them to the punch)

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    Where will the new consoles fit in that list, with their Navi GPU's? TVs blocking out whatever tech the consoles supports would be a dud move. I bet 1,000,000x as many people use consoles on TV's than PC gamers.

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    Fragluton wrote:
    Where will the new consoles fit in that list, with their Navi GPU's? TVs blocking out whatever tech the consoles supports would be a dud move. I bet 1,000,000x as many people use consoles on TV's than PC gamers.
    Next gen consoles are an unknown quantity. We only know that both support support variable refresh gaming. The current Xbox One X supports both HDMI Forum VRR and Freesync - so currently you get variable refresh gaming from an Xbox One X whether you plug it into a Samsung or LG TV (and both have the same limitation that the variable refresh range only starts at 40hz, so any games under 40fps still have tearing). So maybe they'll just do both, after all even if all TVs just used VRR, some gamers may still want to plug their consoles into a Freesync desktop monitor - so supporting both would be nice.

    Also, get hyped for the 3950x. And maybe get your order in when they pop up because ryzen supplies could be hit as TSMC is under stress for 7nm demand and has just increased product lead time from 2 months to 6 months. Which is pretty hilarious because just a few months ago TSMC was saying they have spare 7nm capacity available and they don't have enough.

    https://www.techpowerup.com/259289/t...t-availability

    Last edited by SirGrim; 18th September 2019 at 10:20 am.

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    If they're having trouble keeping up, it must mean Ryzen 2 is a roaring success. Pretty happy for amd just hope intel can keep up otherwise we'll still be stuck in the same situation as the last few years, just with the names reversed.

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    SirGrim wrote:
    There are now three versions of “G-Sync”

    1. Gsync using a hardware device that’s built into the monitor (only works via DisplayPort) and requires an Nvidia graphics card.

    2. Gsync using AMDs Freesync software - the screen and graphics driver must be compatible as this is a software solution (works over DisplayPort and HDMI)

    3. Gsync using HDMI Forum’s Variable Refresh Rate standard - the screen and graphics driver must be compatible as this is a software solution (works over HDMI)

    Nvidia has chosen to use Option 3 to bring Gsync to TVs. I think the main reason they have chosen option 3 is because it’s a HDMI 2.1 standard feature which means easy future support across a range of products and wide support from TV manufacturers.

    Option 2 which is AMDs Freesync will probably die out from TVs now. Only Samsung supports it while game consoles, Nvidia gpus and probably all other TV makers use Option 3. And while AMD gpus do not support Option 3, AMD has said they will support it by a driver update at some point (probably sooner rather than later now that Nvidia has beat them to the punch)
    Don't think Freesync will die out from TVs. Freesync is built on VESA apdative sync, is an open standard and royalty free - compatible with AMD based consoles and is compatible with displayport 1.2a and up, and hdmi 1.4 and 2.0.

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    dr.m0x wrote:
    If they're having trouble keeping up, it must mean Ryzen 2 is a roaring success. Pretty happy for amd just hope intel can keep up otherwise we'll still be stuck in the same situation as the last few years, just with the names reversed.
    Yes and no. Supplies for the higher binned parts are already getting scarce overseas - on other hardware forums I’ve seen many people complaining they can’t find any 3900x stock. And we know from retailers who do report sales that ryzen 3000 is selling very very well indeed.

    The other reason TSMC is feeling the pinch is because they are also currently making 7nm A13 processors for Apples new iPhones and iPads.

    It could be good news for Samsung too - AMD should not have much difficulty getting Samsung to make chips for them should it get to that point.