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    Fragluton wrote:
    Hmm that is an interesting one. Sandbagging their own products until competition heats up. Good for those with the cards, but a shitty move IMO to sandbag the cards to start with.
    It's worked at least, keeps its competitive with the 2060 with a 10% performance boost


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    1080P tests still? Really?

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    What's a decent upgrade over a 980ti at a not stupid price?

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    nzbleach wrote:
    1080P tests still? Really?
    mass market is still at 1080p not 1440
    1440p and 4k are the 10% and 1%

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    Mass market isn't buying these cards.

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    ludez wrote:
    What's a decent upgrade over a 980ti at a not stupid price?
    2080 super I think. 2080 ti price is just too silly. I'm in the same boat and waiting for next gen Nvidia - probably the 3080.

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    nzbleach wrote:
    Mass market isn't buying these cards.
    As far as gaming goes they are. This is the most popular tier of cards according to Steam hardware surveys (https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/videocard/), and 1080p is the overwhelmingly most popular resolution (69%).

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    Caffeine wrote:
    2080 super I think. 2080 ti price is just too silly. I'm in the same boat and waiting for next gen Nvidia - probably the 3080.
    The 2080 is probably under "stupid" pricing for Ludez - if it costs more than a console, then it's expensive.
    Probably waiting is a good idea - look for a rtx3060/rx6700 as a cheap 980ti upgrade

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    SirGrim wrote:
    The 2080 is probably under "stupid" pricing for Ludez - if it costs more than a console, then it's expensive.
    Probably waiting is a good idea - look for a rtx3060/rx6700 as a cheap 980ti upgrade
    You're not wrong. Yeah might hold out awhile i did look at 2080s but just didnt seem like money well spent when i only play a few games

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    980ti still what, GTX 1070 level? I'd hang on to it.

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    ludez wrote:
    You're not wrong. Yeah might hold out awhile i did look at 2080s but just didnt seem like money well spent when i only play a few games
    just wait Ludez , Cyberpunk 2077 aint out until later during the year

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    that 5600XT looks like a good replacement for my RX580

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    I am also looking at replacing a 480 used at 1680x1050. Looking at anand bench it seems like a 5700xt would cover 1440p for virtually all situations. Is that a reasonable conclusion?

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    Mikos wrote:
    I am also looking at replacing a 480 used at 1680x1050. Looking at anand bench it seems like a 5700xt would cover 1440p for virtually all situations. Is that a reasonable conclusion?
    Depending on the game, yes, it would be fine. It'll run most current games at High/Ultra at 1440p, but if you get a 120+ Hz display you'd need to drop the settings back a bit to accomplish those frame rates (or rely on adaptive sync).

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    Bloody wrote:
    just wait Ludez , Cyberpunk 2077 aint out until later during the year
    For me its this as that's really the only game at the moment that i am going to need a PC upgrade to play.

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    nzbleach wrote:
    Mass market isn't buying these cards.
    Well they definitely aren't buying $700-$2500 cards

    1440p will be mass market in about 5-10yrs when the cards to drive them can be had for under $500 easy at >75hz/fps

    aka the 5700xt level or performance for the price of a rx570/rx580 at high/ultra detail
    and monitor makers start dropping 1080p in favor for 1440p in the budget monitor range
    (pricespy 700 monitors @1080p vs 123 monitors @1440p)

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    huntakillaz wrote:
    Well they definitely aren't buying $700-$2500 cards

    1440p will be mass market in about 5-10yrs when the cards to drive them can be had for under $500 easy at >75hz/fps

    aka the 5700xt level or performance for the price of a rx570/rx580 at high/ultra detail
    and monitor makers start dropping 1080p in favor for 1440p in the budget monitor range
    (pricespy 700 monitors @1080p vs 123 monitors @1440p)
    Is 1440p not mainstream yet? I honestly thought it was.

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    It gets recommended a lot to get 1440p, but isn't actually mainstream yet, just a good idea because of future proof

    E.g. i'll be buying a 1440p next sale, however with only 5700xt i won't be hitting 144FPS on 1440p on ultra or anything, but expect it to last 5 years so will sort me out in the future

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    Valeyard wrote:
    Is 1440p not mainstream yet? I honestly thought it was.
    The market is two tier.

    You have casual gamers and hardcore gamers.

    It's sometimes hard to get a grasp of trends for the hardcore market because the number of casual gamers vastly outnumber them and most data is for the combined market so we generally just see the casual gamer trends swallow up the hardcore market.

    But just on my gut feelings I'd say 2560x1440 @60-144hz is currently the standard among hardcore PC gamers.
    And 1920x1080 @ 60-75hz is the standard for casual PC gamers.

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    SirGrim wrote:
    The market is two tier.

    You have casual gamers and hardcore gamers.

    It's sometimes hard to get a grasp of trends for the hardcore market because the number of casual gamers vastly outnumber them and most data is for the combined market so we generally just see the casual gamer trends swallow up the hardcore market.

    But just on my gut feelings I'd say 2560x1440 @60-144hz is currently the standard among hardcore PC gamers.
    And 1920x1080 @ 60-75hz is the standard for casual PC gamers.
    This is true. In defence of the casuals I myself only just moved to 1440p in 2017. It really is the sweet spot imo.

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    Here is resolution data for Steam system survey in December 2019:


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    ludez wrote:
    What's a decent upgrade over a 980ti at a not stupid price?
    I also suggest you hang onto it for another gen if you're playing at 1080p.

    Edit: anything "not stupid price" is for gaming at 1080p. And you already have a card which does that well. If you want a 4k card, then prepare to spend stupid money.

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    scholar wrote:
    I also suggest you hang onto it for another gen if you're playing at 1080p.

    Edit: anything "not stupid price" is for gaming at 1080p. And you already have a card which does that well. If you want a 4k card, then prepare to spend stupid money.
    I'm actually at 3440x1440

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    DW wrote:
    Here is resolution data for Steam system survey in December 2019:
    Glaring issue with any of the Steam stats is that it counts internet cafe hardware doesn't it? So if you have 100 people sign in to one PC over a week, then you have 100 of that same system adding to the stats. Multiply that by 30 machines in a cafe, multiply that by the number of cafes in China alone (160,000 or so).

    1080P will still be the most popular, but it wouldn't surprise me if it was lower than Steam shows.

    1080P is still the go to resolution for those not wanting to spend Nvidia money on a GPU. I couldn't imagine gaming at 60hz which is what most people probably still do. Just the same as some people can't imagine gaming at 1080P. I'm still hitting 100fps+ in the games I play with high/ultra settings, looks sweet and super smooth. If I could get the same frames @ 1440P ultrawide, then i'd get on that wagon too. But it's not worth the inflated expense to me.

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    I don't know about netcafes these days but I never used my own steam account back when I played at them.