World of Warcraft: Legion

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    I think you may have completely missed the point...

    You can pay gold to be carried through a +15 and end up with a piece of gear equivalent to mythic raid gear - total time ~20mins? Or you could raid for 4hrs and might walk away with nothing dependant on loot rules/guild etc.

    And then to get an even higher ilvl epic you're having to rely on luck with wf/tf!

    Essentially, you're rewarded with very similar gear, for less input.

    The colour reference is merely harking back to the old days when ilvl wasn't even a thing

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    Gamblor wrote:
    The current ruleset doesn't work though as all the top M+ teams complain that they have to raid.
    If they want raid gear, they know where to find it. Raiding has always been the traditional high end of WoW, If you're a "cutting edge" player then obviously you're going to have better gear than someone who only does 5 mans.

    Gamblor wrote:
    So changes should be made to improve the situation for those that focus on M+.
    That's ridiculous. What if I want to focus on pet battles... where's my mythic raid gear? You can get a tonne of good gear from M+ and people that do it exclusively should be happy it's as good as it is.

    S15Silvia wrote:
    You can pay gold to be carried through a +15 and end up with a piece of gear equivalent to mythic raid gear - total time ~20mins? Or you could raid for 4hrs and might walk away with nothing dependant on loot rules/guild etc.
    That's a another ridiculous comparison. You can pay to be carried through a raid as well and it would be a lot less effort to carry 1/20 than 1/5. It also wouldn't take 4 hours for a guild that's farming easily enough to be selling carries.

    S15Silvia wrote:
    Essentially, you're rewarded with very similar gear, for less input.
    Are you referring to the one piece per week compared to the multiple pieces that drop off every raid boss?


    S15Silvia wrote:
    The colour reference is merely harking back to the old days when ilvl wasn't even a thing
    I know that, that's why I say it's not really something to complain about.

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    That's a slightly mental number of smilies.

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    Yeah I have issues. Probably Autistic and mentally unstable?

    Or just plain weird...

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    Quasi ELVIS wrote:
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    I never suggested that M+ should give raiding gear. I think M+ is in a similar situation to PVP. If you want to min-max in anything in WoW then you need to be in a mythic raiding guild. Most people that focus on M+ or PVP don't want to raid, so I think a better solution would be to have PVP stats and M+ stats on the respective gear. That way people can focus on what they want to, and the gear they achieve doing that activity gives them the best chance of progression.

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    Undefineed wrote:
    They've changed the grind to other things now where flying is the new purple. **** that! Such a waste of time/sink of time.
    Yeah and it felt ****ing good man.


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    You owned those alive noobs.

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    spoot wrote:
    Yeah I have issues. Probably Autistic and mentally unstable?

    Or just plain weird...
    You're just oldschool, from the days when text was text.

    Gamblor wrote:
    I think a better solution would be to have PVP stats and M+ stats on the respective gear. That way people can focus on what they want to, and the gear they achieve doing that activity gives them the best chance of progression.
    They did it that way for years with resilience on PvP gear, the problem was you could have mythic raid gear and get smoked by someone who'd run a few Arathi Basins. Blizzard want people to be able to do everything in more or less the same gear, hence the change in Legion. I did a couple of arenas for the first time this xpac the other day and was able to actually stay alive in PvE gear for more than 5 seconds which would never have been possible in prior expansions.

    I'm not even sure what you're complaining about, that M+ doesn't drop high enough gear?

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    We have a team of players running M+15 and higher, we're looking for a skilled and reliable healer to join our team.

    We're not HARDCORE but casually doing between 15 and 20 keystones.

    If you're interested send me a PM, i'll send you the names of our team and you can look them up in raider.io

    Prefer someone 2k+

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    Quasi ELVIS wrote:
    I'm not even sure what you're complaining about, that M+ doesn't drop high enough gear?
    I like M+ but if I want to be competitive then I am forced to mythic raid, even if I don't want to.

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    Last edited by Starkey; 19th May 2018 at 5:32 pm.