Denuvo - the best "DRM" that can defeat PC piracy

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    Does GhoX work for Denuvo or something?

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    "The recent and record-breaking 5 day crack of Denuvo-protected Resident Evil 7"

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    KaskadeNZ wrote:
    "The recent and record-breaking 5 day crack of Denuvo-protected Resident Evil 7"
    If it's not even a week to crack now, why buy it?

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    hahahaha shit is GhoX still going.

    Denuvo is done. I guess they get to keep the current DRM world champion trophy, they had a good run.

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    So not only has Denuvo proven to be just like any other DRM system and is getting cracked just like the rest, and the speed is increasing, but its also shown to affect performance of the game it's "protecting".

    I am not looking to shit on you Ghox, but has this situation altered your opinion at all about the service/product?

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    I have very little confidence in articles claiming that Denuvo affects performance when in the same article it refers to "reports of Denuvo breaking SSDs", which originates from a long long dead source on some Ukraine website that was taken down very quickly after being debunked. The other claim of performance impact is from the cracker himself, which would be too biased a source to be even considered a source.

    Instead, in reality more and more games are using Denuvo from a greater variety of publishers. And the majority of people do not care that those games use Denuvo. Sure, an increase in cracking speed is expected given time, but the list of games using Denuvo games also grows over time, and pirates do not appear to be catching up:

    There will always be a loud minority of anti-DRM crowd, but at the end of the day people vote with wallets, and votes have been cast.

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    I have some prime land in Florida,.. would you be interested ?

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    KaskadeNZ wrote:
    I have some prime land in Florida,.. would you be interested ?
    I think he would prefer some waterfront property in Cairo, but then again it seems he is already a resident.

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    In my time online I've seen my fair share of hardline no compromise anti-DRM, pro-open source, pro-piracy zealots but I've gotta say that GhoX is the first pro-PC DRM fanboy that I've encountered.

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    ok , a group called steampunks has cracked Dishonored 2 with a real Denuvo license generator with untouched game executable. Things move quickly in the cracking world.

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    Wait so in GhoX's world, a competitor's word is automatically wrong due to an assumed bias, but that company's OWN opinion about their OWN PRODUCT is immune from bias?

    Is that what I just read?

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    So I think we safely say that Deunvo is about to die, and like everyone (except) Ghox said it was only a matter of time until it got wrecked.
    Time to crack Total War: Warhammer 2 - 10 hours
    RIP you pointless waste of time, and good riddance. DRM is not the answer, it never was and never will be.

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    GhoX wrote:
    Sure, an increase in cracking speed is expected given time, but the list of games using Denuvo games also grows over time, and pirates do not appear to be catching up:
    Things must have changed drastically since the time he posted that link since it actually shows the majority of games that have Denuvo have been cracked, especially with recent releases.

    RIP in piece.

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    Yup, we all knew this is exactly where this was going. It's had no discernible effect on piracy, and the crackers have destroyed this gross piece of technology.
    Piracy sucks but this was never going to solve it. Consumer first release practices and value for money propositions are the only way to curb piracy, but you'll never solve it. Well, not until we're all 100% cloud based and games are streamed directly from the developer/publisher.

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    FIFA 18 was cracked within a day as well.
    GhoX on suicide watch.

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    Shadow of War cracked according sources.

    I think we can call this one DOA.

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    Nope the crackers just "got lucky!"

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    Is it worth reading this thread? DId he defend this idiocy in a blatantly comical but inevitably embarrassing fashion?

    Over the top statements that now would appear to be the rantings of a delusional madman?

    Was he insufferably arrogant leading himself to an unenviable moment of hubris?

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    He was wrong, there was nothing insufferable about it.
    There was some arrogance for sure, dismissing those that opposed him as advocates of piracy, and a lot of denial of what was obvious to others, but in the end he was perhaps just naive more than anything. Certainly not comical, stupid, or delusional.
    I sincerely hope no one would read this thread in the hopes of comedy at another member's expense. I think a few of us made this a little too personal, and acted in ways we'd be too shamed to do in public.

    Lets just say Denuvo has failed just like every other form of DRM apart from always online protection, which is likely where we're heading because publishers still think that pirates are lost sales, and there is no evidence to substantiate that. But rather than trying to entice pirates to become paying consumers, they go for the blunt weapon of DRM. I think that there has been some evidence to show that the honey method does have some success, and certainly more than the stick from what I have seen. Make buying games a more valuable proposition and we might make progress. Sadly we have WB, and EA tacking on bullshit micro-transaction and doing the exact opposite.

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    So not only has Dragonball FighterZ using Denuvo been cracked it's playable online

    Not that I care, I'm sure PC online is a wasteland at this point. Everyone I know still playing is on PS4 at this point.

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    lumpy custard wrote:
    DRM brings people together to share in the mutual satisfaction of breaking it. That's pretty much all it has ever done.
    Sounds like this:

    <%Ephphatha> **** I hate those anti piracy adverts on DVD's
    <%Ephphatha> it makes me want to pirate movies so that I don't have to watch it

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    Looks like they mucked up Denuvo in Sonic Mania, causing slowdowns that weren't there before it was introduced

    I'm gonna focus here on the second post. This slowdown is caused by a trigger in the time attack menu when you scroll down till the last levels, which is not closed properly, which causes Denuvo to continue writing in its section until the game is closed, which causes massive game slowdown.
    This is in spite of Sega's official position on Denuvo

    The FPS is unaffected by Denuvo. During development care is taken to ensure the performance impact is minimised and optimised to keep the game running smoothly.

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    I know Ghox has long since left GP, but I thought this was interesting.

    Dishonored 2, Lords of the Fallen, Bulletstorm and more run better without Denuvo

    Dishonored 2 ran with an average of 56.8fps and an a minimum of 46fps with Denuvo and an average of 60.8fps and a minimum of 46fps without Denuvo.
    • Lords of the Fallen ran with an average of 53fps and a minimum of 44fps with Denuvo and an average of 70fps and a minimum of 51fps without Denuvo.
      25% increase in performance
    • Bulletstorm ran with an average of 149.6fps and a minimum of 57fps with Denuvo and an average of 164.3fps and a minimum of 83fps without Denuvo.
      10% increase in performance
    • Life is Strange: Before the Storm Episode 1 ran with an average of 175.8fps and a minimum of 116fps with Denuvo and an average of181fps and a minimum of 113fps without Denuvo.
      4% increase
    • Moto Racer 4 ran with an average of 176fps and a minimum of 98fps with Denuvo and an average of 180fps and a minimum of 132fps without Denuvo.
      2% increase
    • RiME ran with an average of 87.6fps and a minimum of 50fps with Denuvo and an average of 98.3fps and a minimum of 64fps without Denuvo.
      11% increase
    • Deus Ex: Mankind Divided ran with an average of 63.2fps and a minimum of 11fps with Denuvo and an average of 65.4fps and a minimum of 41.5fps without Denuvo.
      3.5% increase
    Some of the increases are small, but it does put to rest the fiction that Denuvo has no impact on gaming performance. And this is just how it affects the games, it does not include the extra stress your components are put under when Denuvo is used.

    Overlord Gaming wrote:
    all of these games loaded faster when Denuvo was removed, something that did not really surprise us. After all, this is the biggest issue with Denuvo right now (the slower loading times).

    Overlord Gaming also claimed that all of these games performed faster when Denuvo was removed, and that the Denuvo-powered versions suffered from some stutters that were absent the moment this anti-tamper tech was removed. This basically means that you may get a smoother gaming experience even if your average framerate is the same in a game using Denuvo.