Type 2 diabetes is there any cures?

Viilai · 12th September 2017, 4:55 pm

Viilai wrote:

nutritionists.

Skip the nutritionist and speak to a qualified dietitian, you will get better quality advice.

**Viilai** · 12th September 2017, 5:06 pm

Wasn't going to talk to a nutritionist :P

**Privoxy** · 12th September 2017, 5:32 pm

Come see Papa Priv for all your bro science advice.

Privoxy · 12th September 2017, 5:49 pm

Privoxy wrote:

Come see Papa Priv for all your bro science advice.

What did Tormenta say when he ran out of protein?

No whey jose

**Eclectic Gamester** · 19th January 2019, 11:48 am

Just interested to know whether this was medically induced type 2. Such as when they need to use Prednisone, and since that raises glucose through the ceiling if not administered right, causes temporary or permanent diabetes.

Quite a common problem peoplw are not aware of.

**Slater** · 1st February 2019, 5:42 pm

Type 2 for 12 years and im on long acting insuling (not the type 1 stuff at each meal, just once a night)

It's actually really simple and took me ages to work it out myself then the crap old school stuff they teach you at the clinic/docotrs/hospital.

You can do it two ways:
1. Eat clean and reduce carbohydrate portions to be the smallest (150-250g a day max) part of the plate/meal. Eat lots of green leaf stuff and meat with fat is totally fine and will help fill you up. Obviously cut out all sugars (including alcohol sugars! look up hidden sugars)

2. Go the very low carb or Keto approcach, I lost 18kg doing this alone in 8 weeks, put some of it back on sliding off the wagon with carbo binges.

At the moment I just do low-effort keto up to 1500cal a day, basically I avoid all carbs (minus net fibre as that doesn't count) and max I get a day is 10-15g. This alone makes my bloods go to about 5-7mmol throughout the day which is the normal blood sugar bracket and thats WITHOUT having to take my insulin. I still take my insulin now and then if I have the blow outs, but so far it's all food.

Also just to remind you, exercise helps reduce weight but it's more about the food, exercise should be treated for it's health benefits like blood flow, moving joints and mental health benefits, don't hit a gym and stress out on trying to lose weight, food alone will do that (watched my boss drop from 140 to 90 from diet alone)

Slater · 1st February 2019, 6:00 pm

Slater wrote:

Type 2 for 12 years... etc etc long ramble...

Oh you.

**KevinL** · 1st February 2019, 6:06 pm

There's some cool stuff happening around hacking dumb insulin pumps to provide closed-loop 'artificial pancreases'- https://medium.com/neodotlife/dana-l...s-af6ef23a997f

https://openaps.org/

KevinL · 1st February 2019, 7:39 pm

KevinL wrote:

artificial pancreases

Cool so it reduces your insulin resistance? No? Then it's just an automated insulin pump of which there are a couple brands already in the market.

Slater wrote:

Type 2 for 12 years

Don't mean to make you or any of the other posters depressed but living healthy only stops it getting worse, it never gets better. At some point in your life you will end up losing your eyesight, getting gangrene, etc etc.

**Lethargic** · 1st February 2019, 7:50 pm

Something something Metaformin.

Analgia · 1st February 2019, 7:53 pm

Analgia wrote:

Cool so it reduces your insulin resistance? No? Then it's just an automated insulin pump of which there are a couple brands already in the market.

At a significantly higher price?

**PtP** · 1st February 2019, 11:15 pm

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Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should.

**Mutton** · 1st February 2019, 11:24 pm

Is that... chocolate or gravy? wtf.

**PtP** · 1st February 2019, 11:30 pm

Peanut butter cups.

I still remember when the kfc double down was considered excessive.

**Lethargic** · 2nd February 2019, 1:17 am

The only condition I'd eat that is on a severe hangover.

**Mutton** · 2nd February 2019, 1:20 am

Not sure if it's marketing or test kitchen taste that lead to that creation. Shit is insane.

KevinL · 2nd February 2019, 7:49 am

KevinL wrote:

There's some cool stuff happening around hacking dumb insulin pumps to provide closed-loop 'artificial pancreases'- https://medium.com/neodotlife/dana-l...s-af6ef23a997f

https://openaps.org/

They did a session on this at Linux con. It's awesome

Eclectic Gamester · 2nd February 2019, 1:10 pm

Eclectic Gamester wrote:

Just interested to know whether this was medically induced type 2. Such as when they need to use Prednisone, and since that raises glucose through the ceiling if not administered right, causes temporary or permanent diabetes.

Quite a common problem peoplw are not aware of.

What do you mean by 'if not administered right'?

CODChimera · 3rd February 2019, 9:57 pm

CODChimera wrote:

What do you mean by 'if not administered right'?

Crushed and snorted

zippy · 3rd February 2019, 11:03 pm

zippy wrote:

They did a session on this at Linux con. It's awesome

That was a good as con. First one I've ever been to and I was super impressed.

**Quasi ELVIS** · 4th February 2019, 2:09 am

Is T2 diabetes always (or almost always) because you're a chub and is it obvious you're about to get it before it happens? Sometimes I worry I eat too much sugar and I'd like to be able to see the beetus coming on the horizon and panic before I get permanently ****ed up rather than after. My ex-girlfriend's mother used to always tell me I was going to get it and it scarred me for life emotionally, I get worried when I have pins and needles in my feet or I'm more thirsty than usual.

frio · 4th February 2019, 2:10 am

frio wrote:

That was a good as con. First one I've ever been to and I was super impressed.

I don't use Linux but that still sounds interesting.

**Sin^** · 6th February 2019, 10:38 am

Reverse anaema fecal transplant maybe?

Quasi ELVIS · 6th February 2019, 12:20 pm

Quasi ELVIS wrote:

Is T2 diabetes always (or almost always) because you're a chub and is it obvious you're about to get it before it happens? Sometimes I worry I eat too much sugar and I'd like to be able to see the beetus coming on the horizon and panic before I get permanently ****ed up rather than after. My ex-girlfriend's mother used to always tell me I was going to get it and it scarred me for life emotionally, I get worried when I have pins and needles in my feet or I'm more thirsty than usual.

If you're that worried just go get your HbA1c checked every 6 months or so

Quasi ELVIS · 6th February 2019, 3:25 pm

Quasi ELVIS wrote:

Is T2 diabetes always (or almost always) because you're a chub and is it obvious you're about to get it before it happens? Sometimes I worry I eat too much sugar and I'd like to be able to see the beetus coming on the horizon and panic before I get permanently ****ed up rather than after. My ex-girlfriend's mother used to always tell me I was going to get it and it scarred me for life emotionally, I get worried when I have pins and needles in my feet or I'm more thirsty than usual.

I think things like age, obesity, physical inactivity and genetics (including ethnicity, gestational diabetes) are much stronger risk factors than "eating to much sugar". I'm pretty sure a high fat diet also reduces your insulin sensitivity (so would incr. diabetes risk). Endurance athletes tend to consume a lot of sugar, but because they are regularly physically active they have good insulin sensitivity and a greater ability to take glucose from the blood to the tissue, so have low rates of T2DM. Everything in moderation.