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    #51
    It's an inherent human trait to think the world's going to end about the time we're due to die. As if existence will cease to exist without us, or at least be somehow of lower quality.

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    #52
    Cynic wrote:
    You don't think that every generation has looked at the changes going on in the world and thought that we were headed down the highway to hell?
    Yeah, and maybe they are all right? The timelines just vary. Human civilization is not sustainable by pretty much any metric.

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    #53
    bradc wrote:
    It's an inherent human trait to think the world's going to end about the time we're due to die. As if existence will cease to exist without us, or at least be somehow of lower quality.
    I actually think the world wont end just the world as we know it today ... more sh#$%, more chaos, etc.

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    #54
    s0cks wrote:
    Yeah, and maybe they are all right? The timelines just vary. Human civilization is not sustainable by pretty much any metric.
    Based on what we currently know, yes. But the problem with forecasting is that you cannot predict the black swan events and the impact they will have. Especially given that we have at least a century, probably more.

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    #55
    Cynic wrote:
    Especially given that we have at least a century, probably more.
    Given warming predictions, maybe not.

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    #56
    A friend of mine is trying to get these ideas more visibility;

    Modern Monetary Theory 101 with Ellis Winningham and host Steven Grumbine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ga49jmY_toQ&t=369s

    The Basics of Modern Money: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDL4c8fMODk

    Alienating Young Men is Deeply Sad - Jordan Peterson - UK Interview 15 01 2018: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ER1LOarlgg

    The relational movement, Mark Fairfield: http://gestaltakademin.se/wp-content..._Fairfield.pdf

    Russell Brand & Jordan Peterson - Kindness VS Power | Under The Skin #46: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kL61yQgdWeM

    What do you think are the best ways for this to be done in New Zealand.

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    #57
    I think you have to practice what you preach, get out there, and lead and show others by example.

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    #58
    An update: https://www.theguardian.com/books/20...george-monbiot

    I had never even heard of this group - https://www.montpelerin.org/

    I think the Extinction Rebellion movement has it right when they say the current NeoLiberalism economic system has to change dramatically to make any significant action on Climate Change. But Climate Change is just one of the many ills this system has caused.
    Last edited by KiwiTT; 5th May 2019 at 12:19 pm.

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    #59
    bradc wrote:
    I think you have to practice what you preach, get out there, and lead and show others by example.
    As Homer Simpson said when is was the Sanitation Commissioner... Can't someone else do it.