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    #51
    Valeyard wrote:
    So have we heard if Stadia will be launching in NZ at launch or are we going to have to wait?
    I doubt it and given that you will need a Stadia subscription and then also purchase the games at full price well it won't fly so well down here.

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    #52
    Valeyard wrote:
    So have we heard if Stadia will be launching in NZ at launch or are we going to have to wait?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Stadia

    Stadia will launch in November 2019 in fourteen countries: Belgium, Canada, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Italy, Ireland, Netherlands, Norway, Spain, Sweden, United Kingdom, and the United States, and at that time, limited to the Pro tier users. By 2020, Google plans to expand Stadia to more countries and bring the free Base service online.
    So no, and as I said before the closest data centre here is in Sydney so it might not ever come here if there are no plans for servers in NZ. It's all dependent on if the latency to 40-50ms of latency to Sydney is 'good enough' vs. the 5ms you'd traditionally get to an Auckland server.

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    #53
    NZ has typically been excluded from many streaming services even games like PSNow

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    #54
    Valeyard wrote:
    So have we heard if Stadia will be launching in NZ at launch or are we going to have to wait?
    I posted the answer to that literally two posts above yours...

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    #55
    Great interview with Googles director of games for Stadia with Kinda Funny.

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    #56
    Only a few days out and it looks like Stadia is... undercooked.

    You need to buy the console, and pay for the subscription, and pay FULL PRICE for the games... including games that have literally been out for years so you can access their server to play a game they run with literally no guarantee regarding frame rate, visual fidelity, or latency. Or even maintaining a solid connection.
    I expect their servers to explode and die on release.

    The missing features is longer than the included features.
    Don't have Chromecast Ultra and want 4K? too bad, wait until "2020". Family sharing? Later. HDR? We're working on it. 5.1 Audio... coming soon. Even if you're streaming to a HDR 4K TV, or PC capable of these features on a fast internet connection.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/Stadia/comm...ne&sh=6a774acd

    Launch Titles:
    Assassin’s Creed Odyssey
    Destiny 2
    GYLT
    Just Dance 2020
    Kine
    Mortal Kombat 11
    Red Dead Redemption 2
    Thumper
    Tomb Raider
    Rise of the Tomb Raider
    Shadow of the Tomb Raider
    Samurai Shodown

    Coming "later"
    Attack on Titan 2: Final Battle
    Borderlands 3
    Darksiders Genesis
    Dragonball Xenoverse 2
    Farming Simulator 19
    Final Fantasy 15
    Football Manager 2020
    Ghost Recon Breakpoint
    Grid
    Metro Exodus
    NBA 2K20
    Rage 2
    Trials Rising
    Wolfenstein: Youngblood
    Yeah, this looks like a joke. Sadly I am not laughing.'

    Any predictions on how the launch will go? Mine is, that it will be entertaining for those of us who can't or don't want to try it out.

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    #57
    You can't try it out if you wanted to anyway, as it isn't launching anywhere in the southern hemisphere, let alone here, as I have posted multiple times now in this thread...

    And they haven't announced any plans to bring it here or Australia at all at this point.

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    #58
    Yeah, it's not available here in NZ and wont be for a while. Also completely beside the point. Will be interesting to see how it rolls out, and (as I said) entertaining to those of us who can't or don't want to try it out.
    Last edited by ChrisB; 15th November 2019 at 3:01 am.

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    #59
    Developers say what we're all thinking, that Stadia can just as easily go boom

    A developer who is launching their new game on day one of Stadia in an interview says he has a major concern with Stadia - that if it doesn't meet Googles expectations, they will just cancel it like the other hundreds of cancelled Google services (Google has a long history of cancelling projects)

    https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2019/...ght-not-exist/

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    #60
    ChrisB wrote:
    Only a few days out and it looks like Stadia is... undercooked.

    You need to buy the console, and pay for the subscription, and pay FULL PRICE for the games... including games that have literally been out for years so you can access their server to play a game they run with literally no guarantee regarding frame rate, visual fidelity, or latency. Or even maintaining a solid connection.
    I expect their servers to explode and die on release.

    The missing features is longer than the included features.
    Don't have Chromecast Ultra and want 4K? too bad, wait until "2020". Family sharing? Later. HDR? We're working on it. 5.1 Audio... coming soon. Even if you're streaming to a HDR 4K TV, or PC capable of these features on a fast internet connection.
    Ars did a good list of missing features https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2019/...ondays-launch/

    "On day 1, PC Chrome gameplay won't support 4K, HDR, or 5.1 Surround Sound." Those features will be added in 2020 for PC players.

    Stream Connect, which allows one player's Stadia viewpoint to be integrated with another player's stream, will not be available in any launch games. The first game to use it is expected to launch by the end of the year.

    State Share (which lets users share save files via links) and Crowd Play (which allows for quick jump-in multiplayer through a YouTube stream) won't be integrated into games until next year.

    At launch, Google Assistant integration will be limited to the ability to turn on the TV and start a game. Soon after launch, the Assistant button on the Stadia controller will work on Chromecast's Stadia homescreen. Assistant support on PCs and phones and during gameplay will come sometime after that.

    Family Sharing (which lets you buy a game once and share it with accounts held by family members) "is not supported on day one, so you’ll have to buy games for your child’s account." The feature is planned for addition "early next year."

    There is no Stadia UI for Achievements or Achievement notifications on day one. But if you happen to perform an in-game feat that would earn a specific Achievement, it will show up when the feature is rolled out "shortly after launch."

    Chromecast Ultra units included in the Founders/Premiere bundles are the only ones that will work with Stadia on day one. Other Chromecast Ultra units will be able to play Stadia games after an over-the-air update "soon after launch."

    The "Buddy Pass" that lets early adopters offer a free three-month Stadia trial to a friend will be sent "about two weeks after you receive your bundle, barring some unknown unknowns popping up."

    Currently, "the phone is needed for initial setup and buying games." Buying games through a Chromecast Ultra or the Web is not supported, and the AMA gave no indication if or when it would be added.

    As previously discussed, mobile support will be limited to Google Pixel phones and ChromeOS tablets at launch. A timeline for general iOS and Android support is still to be determined, but Pixel will likely be the only mobile support "this year," according to the AMA. Google says it "want[s] Stadia to run on every screen eventually."

    As previously discussed, the Stadia Controller's wireless functions will only work with Chromecast Ultra at launch. To use that controller with a phone or tablet, you'll need to plug it in with a USB-C cable. Generic USB controllers will also work with Stadia on PC or phones, but not on Chromecast.
    Also is uses 20gb an hour on max settings (no way in hell it's coming to Australia then) and no support for any resolution that isn't 1080p or 4k.

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    #61
    lol what a joke

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    #62
    Black Plague*** wrote:
    lol what a joke
    It just gets worse and worse

    Digital Foundry has uncovered that at launch the 4K Streaming option is Fake 4K.

    For example if you have the 4K subscription and play Shadow of the Tomb Raider - the game is actually rendering at 1080p, Stadia then upscales the image and streams it to you - resulting in an image that looks blurry like it has Vaseline over it compared to native 4K

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    #63
    SirGrim wrote:
    It just gets worse and worse

    Digital Foundry has uncovered that at launch the 4K Streaming option is Fake 4K.

    For example if you have the 4K subscription and play Shadow of the Tomb Raider - the game is actually rendering at 1080p, Stadia then upscales the image and streams it to you - resulting in an image that looks blurry like it has Vaseline over it compared to native 4K
    Haha jaysus. I can see Google giving up on this in the near future.

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    #64
    SirGrim wrote:
    It just gets worse and worse

    Digital Foundry has uncovered that at launch the 4K Streaming option is Fake 4K.

    For example if you have the 4K subscription and play Shadow of the Tomb Raider - the game is actually rendering at 1080p, Stadia then upscales the image and streams it to you - resulting in an image that looks blurry like it has Vaseline over it compared to native 4K
    Did they advertise it as native 4k? If so that has to be lawsuit material

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    #65
    SirGrim wrote:
    It just gets worse and worse

    Digital Foundry has uncovered that at launch the 4K Streaming option is Fake 4K.

    For example if you have the 4K subscription and play Shadow of the Tomb Raider - the game is actually rendering at 1080p, Stadia then upscales the image and streams it to you - resulting in an image that looks blurry like it has Vaseline over it compared to native 4K
    They also had to change ISPs to get better image quality... https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/d...ia-tech-review

    However, actually accessing this does require some serious bandwidth. On a standard 30mbps fibre connection, it wasn't possible, even though the connection was rated as 'good' (look for a 'great' or 'excellent' rating to avoid issues). This may well be a limitation of my specific home connection - the reason we haven't produced coverage of Microsoft's xCloud yet is that UK ISP Sky seems to have an aversion to streaming platforms. I ended up moving to a Virgin Media connection (rated 'excellent') with a surfeit of bandwidth in order to get the job done.
    Even stranger is the Washington Post review, which claims that they got better latency on their phone via WiFi than Ethernet. This shouldn't be possible? https://www.washingtonpost.com/video...-still-clouds/

    When played on a browser or LCD 4K TV, horrendous latency plagued singleplayer and multiplayer games...
    On the phone, however, a totally different story emerges. While playing Destiny 2 in 60 fps on a Google Pixel 3a XL over a WiFi connection, there was almost no blurriness and barely any latency. Barring a few noticeable but quick skips during play, the images produced were fast and sharp on the phone’s 2160x1080 resolution screen.

    These tests were conducted with my WiFi at home, which gave me anywhere from 45 to 55 Mbps download speeds, well above the 35 Mbps Google says should give me 60 frames-per-second movement in 4K resolution. They were also conducted on The Washington Post’s Gigabit Ethernet and WiFi service. In all cases, the phone outperformed the experience on browsers and TVs.

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    #66
    If a billion dollar Tech company like Google can't figure out how to make this technology work then I have no hope for it.
    Like the digital foundry summary: is streaming games here? Yes. Is Stadia actually ready for the market? Far from it.

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    #67
    Yep this is dead on arrival lol. Makes me slightly concerned for Xcloud at least xbox isnt betting its future on it unlike google

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    #68
    IGN are streaming Red Dead on Stadia, doesn't look the best. The high compression is causing pixelation, check out the pixelation and banding causing the night sky to look all blocky in the screen below. They were playing in 1080p on a gaming PC with a wired internet connection with 600mbps down.


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    #69
    ^^ That looks awful. Would look even worse if played on a OLED screen since they are very sensitive to low quality content.

    Look at this lol, if Google doesn't fix this, why not just buy a next gen console instead of stadia.


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    #70
    There's definitely some issues. IGN played Destiny on a wired gigabit connection and there was more pixelation than there was playing it on a macbook with a 20mbps wifi connection. Maybe the lower connection speed means they deliver a lower resolution which requires less compression? Will wait for Digital Foundry to do a deep dive analysis.


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    #72
    Performance seems super different day-by-day https://twitter.com/GenePark/status/1196546198674518016

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    #73
    FYI for another metric. Even if you managed to find a game that actually outputs 4K 60 without issue from Stadia - 4K 60 streams are capped to 40mbps bitrate which is pretty low so the image will always be compressed and suffer for it

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    #74
    Because all of those Candy Crush playing grandmas were really gonna play Destiny 2, right? You'd think that the biggest tech company in the world would have a better market research team. 🤷*♂️

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    #75
    Couple of interesting tweets from Kotaku (Jason Schreier)

    Google Stadia is out today, and it already looks like a monumental flop. (I heard from one person involved that preorders were below expectations.) Question is, will they eventually stop trying to sell games and switch to an all-you-can-eat subscription model? Or just let it die?
    https://twitter.com/jasonschreier/st...66382584672256

    I don’t think Google is going to give up on Stadia that quickly — they’re building multiple game studios as we speak — but it was always asinine to think they could sell games at full price on this thing. Need to pivot, even if it means losing some of the biggest AAA games
    https://twitter.com/jasonschreier/st...70278652751872
    Last edited by Valeyard; 21st November 2019 at 10:52 am.