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    Sri Lanka vs. New Zealand

    So the next assignment is Sri Lanka in only a few weeks time.
    I believe this counts towards the ICC test championship.

    August 8 to 10: Three-day warm-up game in Katunayake
    August 14 to 18: 1st Test in Galle
    August 22 to 26: 2nd Test at P Sara Oval in Colombo
    August 29: T20 warm-up game in Katunayake
    August 31: 1st T20I at R Premadasa Stadium in Colombo
    September 2: 2nd T20I at R Premadasa Stadium in Colombo
    September 6: 3rd T20I in Pallekele


    We need to use this as a warm up for Australia. Who do you want to see in?

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    Test team

    Raval
    Latham
    Kane
    Ross
    Nicholls
    Watling
    Santner
    Astle
    Wagner
    Southee
    Boult

    T20i Team

    1 Munro
    2 Guptill
    3 CDG
    4 Anderson
    5 Mitchell
    6 Seifert (keeper)
    7 Santner
    8 Kuggs
    9 Sodhi
    10 Tickner
    11 Bennett

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    Wow, no rest for many of these guys at all. When do they start transitioning Ferguson to the test side with a view to Aus?

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    wrighty wrote:
    Test team

    Raval
    Latham
    Kane
    Ross
    Nicholls
    Watling
    Santner
    Astle
    Wagner
    Southee
    Boult

    T20i Team

    1 Munro
    2 Guptill
    3 CDG
    4 Anderson
    5 Mitchell
    6 Seifert (keeper)
    7 Santner
    8 Kuggs
    9 Sodhi
    10 Tickner
    11 Bennett
    Who captains your ODI side? I wouldn't put Guptill as a captain

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    wrighty wrote:
    Test team

    Raval
    Latham
    Kane
    Ross
    Nicholls
    Watling
    Santner
    Astle
    Wagner
    Southee
    Boult

    T20i Team

    1 Munro
    2 Guptill
    3 CDG
    4 Anderson
    5 Mitchell
    6 Seifert (keeper)
    7 Santner
    8 Kuggs
    9 Sodhi
    10 Tickner
    11 Bennett
    No Neesham in T20? Come on m8. Anderson isn't even back from surgery yet, let alone ready to be picked for international cricket! Forget that guy for a while. Kane may be rested from T20 (likely) but he'd still be in my top T20 team, especially working towards the WC. Got us to the semi's last time on his own bat.

    Indigo1 wrote:
    Wow, no rest for many of these guys at all. When do they start transitioning Ferguson to the test side with a view to Aus?
    Remember how long it was without any NZ cricket before the WC? They'll survive. Harder for guys like Kane who did the IPL too... it's neverending for him.

    Ferg needs to be in ASAP.

    Do they use the dukes ball in Sri Lanka? If so, I'd play Matt Henry.

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    Indigo1 wrote:
    Who captains your ODI side? I wouldn't put Guptill as a captain
    It's mental cruelty to keep picking him atm, that final over was awful to watch.

    They should give him a rest for a while and see if he comes right.

    TBH he should get another job, for Laura's sake, if for no other reason.

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    <N> wrote:
    No Neesham in T20? Come on m8. Anderson isn't even back from surgery yet, let alone ready to be picked for international cricket! Forget that guy for a while. Kane may be rested from T20 (likely) but he'd still be in my top T20 team, especially working towards the WC. Got us to the semi's last time on his own bat.



    Remember how long it was without any NZ cricket before the WC? They'll survive. Harder for guys like Kane who did the IPL too... it's neverending for him.

    Ferg needs to be in ASAP.

    Do they use the dukes ball in Sri Lanka? If so, I'd play Matt Henry.
    Yea good point. I wonder how good Henry will be anywhere that isn't England?

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    Zarkov wrote:
    It's mental cruelty to keep picking him atm, that final over was awful to watch.

    They should give him a rest for a while and see if he comes right.

    TBH he should get another job, for Laura's sake, if for no other reason.
    **** off.

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    I agree bring in Neesham for Anderson... also unpopular opinion but let Southee captain the T20's if Williamson is getting a rest....

    From what I have seen he plays smarter when he is in charge.... eg doesn't bowl himself lol...and seems to have a good head for setting up the attack.

    I think you need some bowling experience in the pack over there if you want to play the new guys...

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    Yea can't see Anderson anytime soon. I'd like to think he'd need a home summer to prove hes good to go.

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    Believer wrote:
    I agree bring in Neesham for Anderson... also unpopular opinion but let Southee captain the T20's if Williamson is getting a rest....

    From what I have seen he plays smarter when he is in charge.... eg doesn't bowl himself lol...and seems to have a good head for setting up the attack.

    I think you need some bowling experience in the pack over there if you want to play the new guys...
    Good ideas Believer. Southee in for Bennett.

    No way Neesham plays T20 - it is just not his format. It is like fitting Munro into the 50 over team because he is good at T20.
    Neesham is the worst T20 player ever. His T20i average is a paltry 14. He cares about his wicket too much and spends too many balls scratching around trying to get his eye in. Basically he bats for his stats and his average.

    Not a team man in T20.

    If Anderson can't play would go Phillips. He belted in the Carrribean league.

    Don't be fooled by Neesham's big hitting in ODIs. He doesn't have the T20 mindset. Completely different game.

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    The World T20 is 15 months away in Australia. It's the next big ICC event to work towards.

    England and India are the clear favourites, with Australia snapping at the heels with Warner leading the way for them (but they still lack a spinner). SA look weak with no ABDV, Pak lack real power hitters at the top, and WI never know if Dre Russ and Pollard will be available.

    KW is one of the best t20 captains around as shown repeatedly with his composure for the SRH team over the last 2 seasons. I think any critiques of Kane's captaincy can well and truly be put to bed now with the win over Bnagladesh in 2 days due to rain, the win over Pakistan in the 3rd test, his world cup, and his time at SRH. He is thoughtful, cool and measured.

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    wrighty wrote:
    Good ideas Believer. Southee in for Bennett.

    No way Neesham plays T20 - it is just not his format. It is like fitting Munro into the 50 over team because he is good at T20.
    Neesham is the worst T20 player ever. His T20i average is a paltry 14. He cares about his wicket too much and spends too many balls scratching around trying to get his eye in. Basically he bats for his stats and his average.

    Not a team man in T20.

    If Anderson can't play would go Phillips. He belted in the Carrribean league.

    Don't be fooled by Neesham's big hitting in ODIs. He doesn't have the T20 mindset. Completely different game.
    What a load of bullshit.

    What is the point of looking at Neesham's whole 13 T20i innings? Bulk of them were in 2012 and 2014, with a couple in 2017. A time where he was clearly feeling his way into the side. Not now, he would come out and hit from ball one. Gaurantee it. I'm not fooled by his ODI game, I think he could be a better T20 batsman.

    His overall T20 record is 25 @ 140 S/R. Hardly bad for a middle-lower order batsman! Neesham would have grown a huge amount in the last 7 weeks, he belongs now. Do not let that go. Keep him around this group and he could go to the next level.

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    <N> wrote:
    Neesham would have grown a huge amount in the last 7 weeks, he belongs now. Do not let that go. Keep him around this group and he could go to the next level.
    Well before I acknowledge your point, I want to note that I watched one of his T20 innings live at Westpac stadium, he walked out to bat in the 16th over and scratched around like Michael Clarke used to and scored 8 off ten balls. Then in the 20th over he launched and hit four 4's in a row and finished with something like 26 off 15 balls, Everyone said he did well but we lost that game in part due to him waiting to get his eye in before smashing it.

    Regarding your points I have quoted. those are fair points and perhaps maybe we just pick him for the T20 side even though there are better T20 specialists in the country in the name of giving more game exposure at international level and turning him into a superstar.

    There is virtually no ODI games in the next 12 months so if you aren't in the T20 or test team then you are in the wilderness.

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    Why next to no ODI games?

    Are England and India not playing ODI here?

    White will prob swap a test for a 3 match ODI series... lol.

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    Paddles wrote:
    Why next to no ODI games?

    Are England and India not playing ODI here?

    White will prob swap a test for a 3 match ODI series... lol.
    All ODIs will count towards qualification to the next world cup.
    So they are all more meaningful

    we are not scheduled to play any ODIs against England before the next world cup.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020%E...p_Super_League
    We also won't play Afghanistan, South Africa and Zimbabwe

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    Wasn't it a case of the ICC allocating NZ a fixed number of games... So NZC opted to take the ODI's last year leading into the WC and then T20's this year leading into the world cup next year....

    I thought I'd read somewhere it's part of their new revenue model....

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    https://www.nzc.nz/news-items/recall...ck-for-santner

    BLACKCAPS Test squad for Sri Lanka

    Kane Williamson (c)
    Todd Astle
    Tom Blundell
    Trent Boult
    Colin de Grandhomme
    Tom Latham
    Henry Nicholls
    Ajaz Patel
    Jeet Raval
    Will Somerville
    Mitchell Santner
    Tim Southee
    Ross Taylor
    Neil Wagner
    BJ Watling (wk)

    That's a lot of spin

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    No Sodhi is interesting.
    Does Santner come straight back in?
    Remember Southee hooping the ball last time we were over there
    http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/eng...g;view=innings
    Different time of year this time though

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    Cease wrote:
    No Sodhi is interesting.
    Hes hasn't really made the most of his chances so both Patel & Sumerville probably deserve to be selected over him.
    Last edited by signman; 29th July 2019 at 1:29 pm.

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    No Ferguson again, sigh

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    oddjob wrote:
    No Ferguson again, sigh
    Is he injured?

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    I'd probably go with this team.

    Keen to get Santner back in there. His batting helps prop up the weak lower order.
    I see Somerville as being really important once we get to Australia. He needs as much game time as possible.

    Raval
    Latham
    Williamson (c)
    Taylor
    Nicholls
    de Grandhomme
    Watling (wk)
    Santner
    Somerville
    Wagner
    Boult

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    Ins0mn1ac wrote:
    Is he injured?
    Don't think so. Saw an interview of him on TV about a week ago and he was pretty much saying 'pick me for the tests'.

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    Cease wrote:
    All ODIs will count towards qualification to the next world cup.
    So they are all more meaningful

    we are not scheduled to play any ODIs against England before the next world cup.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020%E...p_Super_League
    We also won't play Afghanistan, South Africa and Zimbabwe
    That is not a comprehensive FTP... this is:

    https://icc-static-files.s3.amazonaw.../ICC_Tours.pdf

    We have 3 ODI v Aus and 3 v Ind. Then in the off season 3 v WI (most ridiculous tour ever - just 3 odi) and 3 odi v Ireland.

    The Irish and maybe even the WI series would be a good chance to send out Mitchell, Kuggs, and a few more young bloods.

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    oddjob wrote:
    No Ferguson again, sigh
    No chance he was going to be selected for this tour tbh. Surely unleash him at home or Aussie.

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    <N> wrote:
    No chance he was going to be selected for this tour tbh. Surely unleash him at home or Aussie.
    Agreed, cricinfo said the same thing. We do not want to make the mistake SA made and play seamers, even if they're Philander, Rabada and Steyn. We want to do what England did and play 3 spinners.

    That means Boult/Wagner with CdG then 3 of Somers, Astle, Santner and Patel. I really really hope the team makes the right calls. Southee performed so well there in 2012, but he was bowling mid 140's. He is not the same bowler he was in 2012.

    CdG is a big liability - but with Will Young out injured, and no spare batsman on tour, I expect he will play. I would play Astle and Sommerville both for sure, so my third spinner comes down to Santner's batting vs Patel's flat Jadeja like trajectory.

    1 Raval
    2 Latham
    3 KW
    4 Taytay
    5 Henry
    6 Watling
    7 CdG
    8 Astle
    9 Santner/Patel?
    10Sommerville
    11 Boult/Wagner?

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    <N> wrote:
    No chance he was going to be selected for this tour tbh. Surely unleash him at home or Aussie.
    Agreed, cricinfo said the same thing. We do not want to make the mistake SA made and play seamers, even if they're Philander, Rabada and Steyn. We want to do what England did and play 3 spinners, and just ONE quick. Even then Anderson did stuff all in his 2 tests, and Broad next to nothing in the final test. Lakmal was the SL captain, he went a whole innings without a bowling a single ball.

    That means Boult/Wagner with CdG then 3 of Somers, Astle, Santner and Patel. I really really hope the team makes the right calls. Southee performed so well there in 2012, but he was bowling mid 140's. He is not the same bowler he was in 2012.

    CdG is a big liability - but with Will Young out injured, and no spare batsman on tour, I expect he will play. I would play Astle and Sommerville both for sure, so my third spinner comes down to Santner's batting vs Patel's flat Jadeja like trajectory.

    1 Raval
    2 Latham
    3 KW
    4 Taytay
    5 Henry
    6 Watling
    7 CdG
    8 Astle
    9 Santner/Patel?
    10Sommerville
    11 Boult/Wagner?